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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:4978 comp.os.linux.misc:33765 comp.os.os2.advocacy:75167 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.netspace.net.au!serval.net.wsu.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!oracle.pnl.gov!osi-east2.es.net!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!news.alpha.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!news.claremont.edu!muddcs!mdharm From: mdharm@muddcs.cs.hmc.edu (Matthew Dharm) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux thoroughly insulted by Infoworld! Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:33:12 GMT Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA Lines: 73 Sender: mdharm@hmc.edu Message-ID: <3fmlqo$llg@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> References: <950116203411@lambada> <3fk4hi$iu8@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <1995Jan19.015527.16465@cs.cornell.edu> <3fm171$hes@ivory.lm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: muddcs.cs.hmc.edu I think that the big difference of oppinion here is caused by different needs. I'm currently a college student, but I've also worked for both large and small firms, so here's my $0.02. AS A COLLEGE STUDENT: --------------------- I've found linux to be invaluable for me at college. It provides me with direct internet connectivity which DOS and WinDoze can't even come close to. Yes, it does take some time to keep up with kernel revisions (I'm about 10 versions back -- I'll catch up this weekend), but the power it gives me is incredible. I can run almost any well-written portable program with (at most) minimal changes to config files, Makefiles, and header files. AS A IS DIRECTOR FOR A SMALL FIRM: ---------------------------------- One of my jobs has bees as IS director for a small company. We publish law books, and our entire opperation fits into <= 15 rooms and a warehouse at another site. We needed a cheap, lightweight, UNIX system to run some accounting software and for network monitoring. Linux was the perfect choice. Kernel 1.0.9 was sufficient, and while we don't have internet connectivity, the networking functions of linux were perfect to our needs. As for technical support: Yes, there were times that I wished that I could have called someone for professional help. But, then again, one time I called WordPerfect, and had them refuse to help me because (they claimed) our registration number was incorrect. I much prefer linux, with man pages and source code to read, than some other DOS/Windoze programs which cost my boss a fortune in long distance charges to get support for. Most times that I called support for one package in particular (a WinDoze publishing app.), I was told that there is no way to do what I want, and it should be part of the next version. Most of the things I wanted to do could have been hacked into the source code in <=15 minutes (I know this because I actually wrote a C++ program to read the exported datafile and process it to my needs -- for those who are interested, I needed the index to be generated sorted not alphabetically but numerically. i.e. 5,10,15 instead of 10,15,5 which it was putting out because 1 comes before 5). Overall, my Linux experience was a good one here. AS AN ASSISTANT IN A LARGER FIRM: --------------------------------- Here, my position was not such a high one, so OS choices were out of my hands. However, my opinion was asked concerning certain tasks, and I have to say that Linux was not the best choice for what we needed. We needed internet connectivity that we could guarantee would not die. If it did, we needed it back up immediately. We were running a server of sorts, which took requests and sent out information. If the system went down for an extended period of time (i.e. 2 hrs.), we were, in a word, dead. Mission-critical is an understatement. We also needed to guarantee security. Here, professional technical support was a necessity. We decided to purchase an OS (nameless here, I'm not writting an endorsement) which would give us that support. So far, our problems have been handled quickly and professionally. No complaints about our choice here. Realistically, the choice of OSes is very dependant on what you plan to do. How much time do you have? How critical is it? Linux is a good OS and I think that many more people could benefit from using it. But not everyone would make a good linux user. Some people just want a computer which they can turn on and get a nice, friendly, graphical OS like WinDoze. I'm not plugging Microsoft, but they do have a place in the computer market. Not everyone wants to know about system functions like ioctl calls and /etc/passwd files. Well, that's my oppinion. --- Matthew Dharm -- mdharm@hmc.edu GM/S/CS/CM d? H++ s++:- g+ p?>1 au--- a18 w+++ v++(*) C++++ U>L++++ P+ L>++++ 3- E++ N++ K- W++(---) M-- V-- po- Y+(++) t+++ 5+++ j+ R-- G'''' tv b+>++ D++ B--- e+>++++(*) u---(+)(++)(**) h f+ r++ n--->+(!) !y**