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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:4984 comp.os.linux.misc:33781 comp.os.os2.advocacy:75225 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!bin.anu.edu.au!nathanh From: nathanh@bin.anu.edu.au (Nathan Hand) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux thoroughly insulted by Infoworld! Followup-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Date: 22 Jan 1995 01:49:32 GMT Organization: Australian National University Lines: 57 Message-ID: <3fsdjc$sc8@manuel.anu.edu.au> References: <950116203411@lambada> <D2pK11.EJx@madge1.demon.co.uk> <3fpk32$80i@unix.sri.com> <3fqh6a$sl@manuel.anu.edu.au> <3frcki$k5k@ivory.lm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.63.25 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Peter Berger (peterb@telerama.lm.com) wrote: : Nathan Hand <nathanh@bin.anu.edu.au> wrote: : >Nate Williams (nate@sneezy.sri.com) wrote: : >Commercial : >vendors suffer from the limitation of too little input. They have small teams : >(perhaps under 100) working 9-5 with only the very basic experience. Contrib- : >utors to Linux amount to thousands of highly-learned professors, scientists, : >real-world workers, students and home hobbyists (all of them highly-learned). : Uh, ok. I see. "Commercial OS's are written by idiots. All Linux : contributors, however, are geniuses." Whatever you say. "How dare you erect a strawman above me and then knock it down". Rethink your next post because you have clearly not thought about your last. : >I dont find the commercial products nearly as stable as the "unsupported" : >Linux. It was because of massive instability (Windows, 'nuff said), slow : >performance (Windows, 'nuff said) and massive resource requirements : >(Windows, 'nuff said) that I switched. I imagine that many Linux users : >will be the same. : Look. In picking Windows, you picked a loser. I agree. However, if you : honestly think that because ONE commecial product YOU chose sucked, all : commercial products are bad, I've got this great bridge in Brooklyn I'd : like to sell you. Maybe if you had weighed your purchasing decision more : carefully before deciding on Windows and chosen a better OS and vendor, you : wouldn't be saying such wildly ridiculous things now. Another strawman: the number of commercial OSs I have used is not small. Microport, ISC, SCO, Minix (for a very short while), DOS, Windows, OS/2 (2.1 i think) and of course Linux. Linux is still the most stable I have found. ISC was pretty good admittedly, but it was so old and had trouble compiling GNU software. SCO, DOS and Windows are laughable. I picked Windows because most people have used Windows. If Id related my gripes about the OSs as related to Microport people would say "huh, wot?" I gave an example people could understand. DOS/Windows is the biggest OS and GUI out there with (supposedly) the biggest support. It makes sense to use it as the counterexample. : [Justification for suckiness of linux support elided for space and nausea.] : This isn't a discussion of the merits of OS support. This is a religious : war. You don't care -how- good the support for a commercial product it; : since it's commercial, your catechism says you're not allowed to like it. Another strawman. Do you live in Emerald City? Commercial software can be fantastic. I have never denied this. I have nothing but good things to say about Coreldraw 3.0 (my first ever software purchase -- it was that good). I find Watcom-C++ 10.0 to be the best C++ compiler to date, exceeding in my opinion even GNU-C++ for speed and code generation. Do not think you can state my opinions; for doing so is malicious at best. : Whatta maroon. A person who cannot argue _and_ cannot spell. Do the wraparound sleeves restrict your typing ability?