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From: wes@indirect.com (Barnacle Wes)
Subject: Re: OpenBSD.  PLEASE PLEASE!
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Jordan K. Hubbard (jkh@violet.berkeley.edu) wrote:
: Then let me be more explicit:  No matter how great the potential
: gains, it's just not going to happen.  Acceptance of this is GOOD since
: it lets us get on with our lives, and it doesn't imply that we're
: underestimating anything.  Believe me!  Anyone who's talked to both
: core teams knows full well at this point that it's NOT POSSIBLE to merge
: the groups!  People in both *BSDs have already said that they'd go
: away if this happened, and I don't care to see those people leave
: EITHER group.  What good would that do?  You want to destroy both groups
: in pursuit of an ideal?  This sort of reminds me of a tale of a certain
: golden goose and its owners who cut it open to get all the eggs out at once.
: These are volunteers here, and if they've been led to water, shown how to
: drink it and still don't want to drink, then pushing their heads under
: until they drown hardly seems constructive.  The teams are already
: firmly on the path to their own individual destinies, and if this
: pisses off a few external folks who just don't see why we can't get
: together, then I'm sorry.  I'm tired of people trying to fight this
: battle when it's obvious to all the generals that it's been lost.
: I'm not just being pessimistic, either.  I've been at the center of
: these discussions for the last year!  I understand the subtleties.

I have an idea: if there are really that many people interested in "OpenBSD",
why don't they get togehter and form an OpenBSD core team? They could sup
FreeBSD-current and NetBSD-current, and regularly produce OpenBSD-current
for supping for those who think this is important.  The goal of the OpenBSD
team would, of course, be to support all applications, utilities, and
drivers supported by the union of {Free,Net}BSD.  At the same time, they
could stop sniveling at the {Free,Net}BSD core teams to merge.  Enough!
Even if you don't have a life of your own, stop trying to use someone
else's!

	Wes Peters