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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:5044 comp.os.linux.misc:33949 comp.os.os2.advocacy:75778 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!news.ucdavis.edu!library.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!jjs From: jjs@dostoevsky.ucr.edu (Joe Sloan) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux thoroughly insulted by Infoworld! Date: 24 Jan 1995 18:13:56 GMT Organization: University of Calfornia at Riverside Lines: 38 Message-ID: <3g3g14$1vd@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <950116203411@lambada> <3g0mnn$ccp@nkosi.well.com> <3g267v$1e3@blackice.winternet.com> <3g34fr$jri@nkosi.well.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dostoevsky.ucr.edu In article <3g34fr$jri@nkosi.well.com>, Henry Hwong <henryh@well.sf.ca.us> wrote: >Sure, I can try to convince my clients to look at Linux. It's free! >However, now I have to look at how much time it would take to maintain or >setup. For a consultant, time is big bucks. Many times, it is cheaper >for me to recommend a whole solution (Sun, HP, IBM) that comes in a package >with everything installed instead of me spending the time to put together >a 486 or Pentium system running Linux. The solution is easy - buy a pre-installed linux system. I know of several vendors who sell ready-to-go linux workstations. You seem to be under the impression that the only way to get linux is to start with a dos machine and a CD-ROM or a pile of disks, and ftp'ing here and there for apps... Maybe in the early days, it was that way - but not anymore... >Then we have to do technology transfer to the client. It's easy to find >classes for Solaris, AIX, SCO, or HPUX. Linux classes? Uh. Hmm. Well, I >could spend the time ($$) to teach you everything about Linux. RTFM just >doesn't cut it with clients. And I can't tell clients to just fire all >their mainframe people and just hire people who recently graduated from >college, either. If they don't fire their "mainframe people" when they buy SCO or HP/UX, why would linux be any different? your argument makes no sense. >That's why consultants like me pick the packages. I have to find the best >solution for my clients. Long term, that $1000 I tell my client to spend >on SCO is cheaper than going with Linux. The hidden people costs are >what kill you. I think you are looking at a static snapshot of the state of linux some months or years ago. The point you are missing is the terrific momentum in the linux movement - your assumptions about linux are obviously based on old data - and brother, old stuff gets old fast around here! jjs -- jjs@wintermute.ucr.edu / You can't figure out how to A linux machine! because a 486 / ACCELERATE your Windoze NT box? is a terrible thing to waste! / -9.8 m/s^2 works quite well!!!