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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:5055 comp.os.linux.misc:33977 comp.os.os2.advocacy:75896 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!news.mira.net.au!news.netspace.net.au!serval.net.wsu.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!oracle.pnl.gov!osi-east2.es.net!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!nntp-ucb.barrnet.net!well!henryh From: henryh@well.sf.ca.us (Henry Hwong) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux thoroughly insulted by Infoworld! Followup-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Date: 23 Jan 1995 16:49:59 GMT Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 58 Message-ID: <3g0mnn$ccp@nkosi.well.com> References: <950116203411@lambada> <3fjcn4$24u@nkosi.well.com> <3fmi6c$ang@galaxy.ucr.edu> <3fvqbd$6v1@nkosi.well.com> <3g070f$251@manuel.anu.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: well.sf.ca.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Nathan Hand (nathanh@bin.anu.edu.au) wrote: : Henry Hwong (henryh@well.sf.ca.us) wrote: : : Joe Sloan (jjs@dostoevsky.ucr.edu) wrote: : : : Henry Hwong <henryh@well.sf.ca.us> wrote: [son of whack] : Excuse me. I have nothing against what you said. People want the : security of money changing hands and the responsibility which : changed hands with it. Yeah, fine. But why are your arguing with : the poster before you? Who's arguing? I'm merely stating points. I think free operating systems are great. I'm having a dandy of a time running NetBSD. : You (Henry) had said "Nobody in their right mind is going to use : Linux as an um-tiddly-i-poe". The follower (Henry) just said that : there are people out there, with right minds, using Linux as the : afore-mentioned um-tiddly-i-poes. How can you dispute that? You're replacement of "database" with "um-tiddly-i-poe" completely misses the point. I never dissed Linux as a whole -- only one use of it. Besides, I don't think jjs@dostoevsky.ucr.edu ever mentioned the use of a database. You have to understand the mentality of the typical corporation with lots of data that you rely on for daily operations with millions in cash flow. As an systems consultant, I have to see it in their perspective. If I were to recommend Linux as the basis for all their operations, I would be laughed right out of the room and told never to come back. Features and stability are only a small portion of a big check list. That's why we have the Windows plague upon us. Look. What a big insurance/manufacturing/service corporation needs is not necessarily what a computing support group needs at a school or university. If all you need is a bunch of Usenet accounts or a platform to do some computing research, Linux (actually, I prefer *BSD, but let's not start that again :-)) will do fine. However, for a company that needs something like Oracle 7 or Sybase System 10, Linux just can't cut it. Especially if the product isn't ported to Linux. See? : If you want security thats fine. If you want support thats fine. : If you want huge crowds in the same boat with you thats fine. But : people with right minds _do_ use Linux. Dont make out that these : people are out of their minds or that Linux is somehow inferior. I guess you missed the previous poster's smiley. I seriously doubt that anything I said or will say will change his mind. Nor do I expect to. This is fun. Who's condemning whom here? I never condemned Linux, but your knee-jerk reaction to my posting unfortunately validates the "Amiga-like devotion" to which the Infoworld columnist was refering. Let's keep our discussion rational. Okay? -Henry