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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:5155 comp.os.linux.misc:34325 comp.os.os2.advocacy:76897 Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!stephenk From: stephenk@netcom.com (Stephen Knilans) Subject: Re: Linux thoroughly insulted by Infoworld! Message-ID: <stephenkD399vC.CM6@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <3fvqbd$6v1@nkosi.well.com> <D31H4A.1BL@gumleaf.apana.org.au> <3gfnc3$pge@epiwrl.entropic.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 05:57:12 GMT Lines: 80 In article <3gfnc3$pge@epiwrl.entropic.com> kenh@entropic.com (Ken Hornstein) writes: >In article <D31H4A.1BL@gumleaf.apana.org.au>, >Michael Talbot-Wilson <mike@gumleaf.apana.org.au> wrote: >>>Besides, Linux is (*gasp!*) just an operating system. Until Sybase, Oracle, >>>or Informix port their products to Linux, why use it? >> >>You have a narrow view on DBMSs. But these three had better >>support it soon, because Unidata runs now and Advanced Pick >>support is coming RSN. A free operating system has the >>potential great advantage to application vendors that they can >>supply it with the application and configured therefor, rather >>than requiring the customer to go buy a Unix system. > >Err, how does this differ from the VAR programs offered by Sun, SGI, SCO, etc? >Plenty of people are making tons of money supplying pre-configuring Unix >workstations with their own software on it (that's the "value added" in >Value Added Reseller). The company I work for does it (to an extremely limited >extent), and the fact that we're using a commerical operating system in no >way hinders us from doing so. I believe that using a commerical operating >system in environments like this may be to your advantage, since the big >vendors offer support goodies like integrated OS/hardware support, 1-800 >numbers, and on-site field service engineers. > >Can you get this level of support for Linux? I would personally not be >surprised if you could, but many people who just consider a computer a black >box want to buy them from big companies that they know are financially sound. >Sure, you can get field service engineers from "Bob's Computer Hut" that >support Linux out the wazoo, but "big business" knows that SGI isn't going >away anytime soon. > I had three problems with SCO, because it wouldn't do what THEY(SCO) said it should! How long did they take to fix? I don't know, as they NEVER did. I only pursued it a few months. I didn't have ANY of those problems with LINUX, but had about a dozen others (it wouldn't do what *I* wanted it to). I was upset because it didn't run DOS better, support SCO binaries, run X windows R6, handle double space disks, Lack of stallion support, lack of WIDE QIC support etc... What happened? DOS in 2 weeks was FAR better, though it STARTED out better than SCO! SCO BINARIES took 2 months to be decent, and 4-5 to work as it does now. It is ALMOST as good as SCO! X windows R6 took about 1 month, and is FAR better than the R3 I got with SCO. Double space took about 2 months, and SCO doesn't provide it! Stallion support took 2 weeks. WIDE QIC took about 2 weeks. Recently, the SCO emulation was broken, and I went in and fixed it! Time to fix? About 15 minutes! I like the idea of having source. I told SCO that they gave me NO support(when they asked me if I was satisfied with "their support"). I further told them they should watch out for LINUX! Guess what? Linux appears to be MORE compatible than SCO! SCO NOW has a "SKUNK WORKS DISK"! What is that? It is an SCO only readable CDROM containing GNU code! So SCO is moving toward being more like LINUX! 8-) Steve OH YEAH, as for INFOWORLD MORONIC question? I have $1600 and need to run a nice COBOL85 in a multiuser environment, but have no OS: 1. Buy MICROFOCUS for SCO(and SAVE up for SCO), and go broke! 2. Buy MICROFOCUS for SCO(and run it on LINUX), and go buy a nice new 1GB disk drive, and have it MADE! I would rather opt for #2! OH YEAH, did I mention you could make that 1GB drive a 2GB drive?