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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux.misc:34358 comp.os.386bsd.misc:5165 comp.os.os2.advocacy:77007 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.netspace.net.au!serval.net.wsu.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!oracle.pnl.gov!osi-east2.es.net!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!ruhr.de!muenster.westfalen.de!khms.westfalen.de!kai Date: 29 Jan 1995 14:30:00 +0100 From: kai@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Message-ID: <5emgI9gzcsB@khms.westfalen.de> References: <950116203411@lambada> <MANOWAR.95Jan17145517@ww.engin.umich.edu> <keving.70.0070BEDF@primenet.com> <D2vqnH.746@spuddy.uucp> <3g3au5$eaa@anshar.shadow.net> Subject: Re: Linux thoroughly insulted by Infoworld! X-Newsreader: XP v3.02 R/A435 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Organisation? Me?! Are you kidding? Lines: 37 dwhite@anshar.shadow.net wrote on 24.01.95 in <3g3au5$eaa@anshar.shadow.net>: > It's targeted at users of the Apple and Microsoft OSes who want to feel > like there isn't something better out there. Admitting that the free > Unixes might be worth a damn would conflict with the Infoworld policy of > kissing Microsoft's ass on a regular basis. They consistently applaud NTs Then why *did* they admit Linux was good? Or didn't you read the whole thread? > ability to act as a "low cost alternative" to minis and Novell servers > (while failing to blast Microsoft for the REMOVAL of the unlimited > licensed connections in NT 3.5 which made 3.1 a great deal for file > server applications) while saying things like this about the free unixes > which have been good NFS servers for a long time before NT was a real > project. Let's face it, NFS isn't really a very good network file system. Even from the Un*x point of view, it doesn't adequately preserve the Un*x filesystem semantics. It's way too slow. And if you want to use DOS clients, you need far too much memory, and the security is broken every which way. Hell, there was recently a discussion on the linux-kernel list about fixing Linux-related security problems in NFS, which resulted in the realization that it's just not possible. SMB does some of these better, especially the speed thingie. (Of course, some things are worse - what do you expect from a MS invention?) Then again, I wouldn't want to use NT as an SMB server, I'd use Samba on Linux. I might use the free MS DOS and Windows client software from ftp.microsoft.com (a NT machine, I believe), though :-) Kai -- Internet: kh@ms.maus.de, kai@khms.westfalen.de Bang: major_backbone!{ms.maus.de!kh,khms.westfalen.de!kai} ## CrossPoint v3.02 ##