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From: Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu>
Subject: Re: X on dial-in
Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 17:20:53 GMT
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alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell) wrote:
]
] Robert Hart (hartr@hedunx.hedland.edu.au) wrote:
] : Hmm - it's very interesting following this thread that most US people
] : seem to think that ISDN is not worth much or is generally not available.
]
] It's not that, it's available to almost anybody that wants it, the trouble
] is a lack of affordable, COMPATIBLE adaptors. If this could be sorted
] then we may see an increase in the number of connectivity suppliers offering
] ISDN connections.
It's not that -- it's the connect time charges that are so excessive
compared to a flat rate frame relay or even a 56k leased line.
2 months of continuous 64k/16k/16k (this is *not* the standard
'basic rate' that US West is offering, folks) for a 64k connection
to a provider I then have to pay even more to is enough to pay a
Frame Relay 56k (would be 64k, but there isn't any equipment for
the consumer) for an entire year (a little over $3000).
And the Frame Relay includes going interstate with the idiotic
"regional bells can't connect between two states because that'd be
long distance".
US West can't endpoint you on the internet because they are
classifying Internet connectivity as long distance.
And US West is still not putting in the 5E/DMS-100 switches, the
minimum necessary for ISDN, and they amortize their equipment over
a 20 year span.
Meanwhile, what SPRINT has is so far under capacity that they have
frequent drops, although this is admittedly mostly on connections
to ANS net, so it could be ANS's fault.
Meanwhile WWW usage continues to grow at 1% per day, according to
socket-specific backbone statistics (look them up yourself).
It's all a crock.
The only viable low-cost soloution is a Frame Relay 56k via US West,
assuming you can find someone to endpoint you.
And since both Linux and *BSD are capable of muxing a single virtual
circuit over two point-to-point links, as long as it's local rates,
2 28.8 modems on both ends have the same effect at under the same
line cost (and two 28.8 modems are ~1/2 the cost the the comparable
Frame Relay equipment).
Terry Lambert
terry@cs.weber.edu
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.