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Xref: sserve comp.sys.powerpc:34074 comp.sys.intel:31501 comp.unix.bsd:16134 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:8150 comp.unix.sys5.r4:9228 comp.unix.misc:16004 comp.os.linux.development:23369 comp.os.linux.misc:35123 comp.os.386bsd.development:3182 comp.os.386bsd.misc:5342 comp.os.misc:3795 Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.intel,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: X on dial-in Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: <D3usD3.81E@pe1chl.ampr.org> References: <3f44s2$jqm@maverick.maverick.tad.eds.com> <3h4363$jqv@deep.rsoft.bc.ca> <D3LFnr.KJG@bonkers.taronga.com> <D3ME6C.14t@pe1chl.ampr.org> <D3ns6F.2w9@bonkers.taronga.com> <D3pF0z.1rq@pe1chl.ampr.org> <3hdf66$qfn@park.uvsc.edu> <D3s19v.4M7@pe1chl.ampr.org> <D3sMnw.8vE@proteon.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 20:46:14 GMT Lines: 31 In <D3sMnw.8vE@proteon.com> jfw@proteon.com (John Woods) writes: >rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) writes: >>In <3hdf66$qfn@park.uvsc.edu> Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu> writes: >>>Consider: Are you charging per packet sent, OR per packet sent >>>or recieved? >>>If the latter, you pay for junk email. >>>If the former or the latter, your email gate will want to charge >>>you for packets attributable to your machine. >>Now, you pay even for no mail at all! >>Of course the calculation assumes that the cost for somebody who sends >>IP packets only 10% of the time would be less than the cost for a fulltime >>circuit. >>You should not look at "what does this junk mail cost me" but at "what >>does it cost me to be connected to the internet". >Precisely. Because I (for example) have a flat rate Internet connection, >I *know* what it cost me to be connected to the Internet this month. I You are lucky. But such a connection is not affordable for a private person here in Europe, so something else has to be found. When this takes the form of a per-packet charge on an ISDN connection I favor it over no connection at all. I can always setup software to somehow deal with the junk mail, like setting up a blacklist of mail sources. Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | | e-mail: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+