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Xref: sserve comp.sys.powerpc:34478 comp.sys.intel:31969 comp.unix.bsd:16207 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:8184 comp.unix.sys5.r4:9290 comp.unix.misc:16102 comp.os.linux.development:23544 comp.os.linux.misc:35548 comp.os.386bsd.development:3221 comp.os.386bsd.misc:5453 comp.os.misc:3817 Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.intel,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!ames!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.duke.edu!news.mathworks.com!udel!gatech!swrinde!news.uh.edu!bonkers.taronga.com!peter From: peter@bonkers.taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Subject: Re: X on dial-in Organization: Taronga Park BBS Message-ID: <D3uD9t.6Fv@bonkers.taronga.com> References: <3f44s2$jqm@maverick.maverick.tad.eds.com> <D3ME6C.14t@pe1chl.ampr.org> <D3ns6F.2w9@bonkers.taronga.com> <fgoldstein.156.00469051@bbn.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 15:20:16 GMT Lines: 23 In article <fgoldstein.156.00469051@bbn.com>, Fred R. Goldstein <fgoldstein@bbn.com> wrote: >Or are you making the typical reducto-ad-absurdum assertion that it's >reasonable to assume that a telephone company _might_ print out the 1's and >zeroes on paper, mail them to the destination, scan them in to a computer, use >a D:A converter, and play back the audio? Using IP between COs for circuit >mode is about as smart. Hasn't the entire communications industry just spent a whole bunch of money on a packet switched technology that resolves the whole issue rather nicely, called ATM? For that matter, there's no technical reason *my* ISDN connection has to be voice grade if I only want data grade. (isn't that a turnabout of terminology) So there's no *technical* reason I couldn't call up the phone company and say "I want to buy a chunk of 64Kbps low priority bandwidth" and have it run anywhere from 0K to 64K depending on other load. Maybe it's only 10K during the day, and bursty, or it gets a 5 second lag now and then when I haven't sent any bits in a while... but it'd be cheaper for them than selling me a voice line and dedicating 64K I'm not using for most of the call (while I sit there and read news and browse www.somecompany.com) or having me tear down and set up ISDN connections every couple of minutes.