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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:5496 comp.unix.bsd:16252 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!ames!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!uwvax!grilled.cs.wisc.edu!jcargill From: jcargill@grilled.cs.wisc.edu (Jon Cargille) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: Put the Cannons Away: Vote YES on newsgroup reformation. Date: 16 Feb 1995 21:01:15 GMT Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 49 Message-ID: <3i0eer$13n@spool.cs.wisc.edu> References: <D3o5Ew.8x2@nbn.com> <kaleb.792882548@exalt> <3i00t3$2u3@park.uvsc.edu> <kaleb.792964220@exalt> NNTP-Posting-Host: grilled.cs.wisc.edu In article <kaleb.792964220@exalt>, Kaleb KEITHLEY <kaleb@x.org> wrote: >Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu> writes: > >>3) One new item that has come to light in this process that >> was not clear to me before (and perhaps this is my own >> fault) is that you effectively stated that you were >> personally bullied into the choice of names by a shadow >> organization you call "The Usenet Cabal". For this to >> be true there must have been a significant abuse of >> process, perhaps including abuse of the position of news >> group moderator. > >> Personally, I have a hard time buying this, and others I >> have talked to in person and in email also have a hard >> time buying this. Not only that such a group could exist >> and wield the power you claim, but that as adamantly as >> you have held on to this thread, it is highly unlikely >> that you would have humbly submitted to their ruling. > >Good for you. I personnally have a hard time believing that you >and Peter Da Silva can't accept what I have said as a statement of >fact. Funny how you would presume to know better than I what the >Usenet group-advice-gurus said to me. > I'm sort of amazed that this is even an issue in this flame war; this complaint is certainly nothing new. For anyone who has read news.groups over the last few years, there is a consistent pattern of people complaining about this very thing; if group-advice disagrees with the position in the hierarchy of the groups that an RFD proposes, it doesn't get posted by Tale. If this were the first complaint of this type that I had see, I would be skeptical as well; considering that I've seen half a dozen or a dozen identical complaints by different people, I think it's a fairly well established pattern. I offer no comment on the rest of the flamewar other than to agree with Jordan: why doesn't everyone get back to useful work instead... ;-) Just my $.02, Jon -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Jon Cargille jcargill@cs.wisc.edu Want your .sig compressed? Reasonable rates and fast turnaround. Call today!