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Xref: sserve alt.folklore.computers:74082 comp.os.386bsd.misc:5513 comp.os.linux.misc:35813 comp.os.os2.advocacy:80733 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!news.ysu.edu!malgudi.oar.net!caen!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newshost.marcam.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp.et.byu.edu!news.byu.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!park.uvsc.edu!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux thoroughly insulted by Infoworld! Date: 24 Feb 1995 21:41:14 GMT Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah Lines: 63 Message-ID: <3iljpq$r4g@park.uvsc.edu> References: <950116203411@lambada> <D2L1xn.xy@denix.elk.miles.com> <NICKEL.95Feb9112526@toftum.prz.tu-berlin.de> <5094@dsinet> <3ihnl0$qm9@bonnie.tcd-dresden.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com j@narcisa.sax.de (J Wunsch) wrote: ] We don't speak about 55 mph, but something like 130 km/h (still ] 1.5 times). Still enough to drive to hell, but should reduce ] the current excellent mortal rate to 50 % or less. Ok, i ] realize that you Americans don't really need high-speed racing ] highways for this, since you've got guns. >:-) The 55 speed limit has nothing to do with minimizing mortality and everything to do with making it less viable to travel great distances because of the time involved. The 55 speed limit in the US was imposed nationally on Jan 2 1974 in response to "the energy crisis" at the time. In point of fact, interstate highways (and most in state roads) are designed for 15 MPH over the posted limit. Prior to 1974, the poste limit in many areas was 75 and 85 MPH. This is why most states that are signatory to the drivers license compact (37 of them) have a "prima facia" law (Latin for "on the face of it") which states that any speed which is a safe speed for existing conditions is a legal speed. This does not apply to federally controlled interstates, since they are effectively nationalized roadways. For well maintained roads that had a limit of 85, the safety margin means that up to 100 would be within the saftey contraints. The reason they don't apply to interstates is that the federal government would withold highway funds, just as they would if a state refused to pass mandated laws, like motorocycle helmet laws, or oxygenated fuel laws (which the University of Denver has shown makes modern engines, expecially those with oxygen sensors, burn fuel too lean and actually increases pollution). Combined with this are the increasingly more stringent requirements for obtaining a drivers license and the increasing vehicle saftey inspection requirements. High speed driving is definitely within the mandated tolerances for drivers, vehicles, and roadways. Actually, it's much more reasonable now than it was only five years ago. Consider also that the agregate rate of closure is still 110 MPH in a 55 zone and 130MPH in the rare (rural interstate) zones where the national limit has been relaxed back to 65 to appease states in the western US where the only other thing on the road is tumbleweeds for some stretches in excess of 115 miles (Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, Colorado, and Arizona. If safety were truly a factor, then the bumper height restrictions would be enforced, and the bumper speed requirements brought about by Raplh Nader's "Unsafe At Any Speed" (which killed tail fins and eventually most hood ornaments) would not have been relaxed to 15MPH. Instead, all speed limits would be 25MPH or less. Too bad they killed the traffic and civil engineering groups where we used to discuss this. This discussion really doesn't belong anywhere any more. 8-(. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.