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Xref: sserve comp.sys.powerpc:34928 comp.sys.intel:32488 comp.unix.bsd:16287 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:8226 comp.unix.sys5.r4:9364 comp.unix.misc:16243 comp.os.linux.development:23750 comp.os.linux.misc:35971 comp.os.386bsd.development:3264 comp.os.386bsd.misc:5533 comp.os.misc:3851 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!romulus.ucs.uoknor.edu!ns1.nodak.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!alfa02.medio.net!news.sprintlink.net!jaring.my!oasys!othman From: othman@oasys.pc.my (Othman bin Hj. Ahmad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.intel,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.misc Subject: Re: flat rates for Internet/phone (Re: X on dial-in) Message-ID: <NtFfvA3BBh107h@oasys.pc.my> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 95 11:43:09 -0800 References: <DANIEL.95Feb24172244@arcturus.compass-da.com> <phrD4G1np.MoG@netcom.com> <D4DH09.BAo@pe1chl.ampr.org> <D3s19v.4M7@pe1chl.ampr.org> <phrD4JrEA.2ss@netcom.com> Organization: Personal,Kota Kinabalu,Sabah,Malaysia Lines: 56 In <phrD4JrEA.2ss@netcom.com> phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) writes: ... >But is that a documentable fact, or just speculation? The main cost >of providing you with local phone service is the wire between the >switch and your house, and that wire is there whether you use it or >not. Next comes some analog electronics to interface your phone to I work for Malaysian telecom and I happen to do just this sort of analysis but on a rough basis and tailored to our customers and equipment contracts. Unfortunately we never consider high erlang i.e. 24 hour use. Mostly we only consider 0.25 Erlang per subscriber, i.e. 1 line is shared by 4 customers. The line cost is small if you live in dense areas like cities and not far from switches. Our mostly rural areas cost about US$800 but with 50% utilisation it should go up to US$1,600. My guess for dense areas should be only about US$400 per subscriber. Bearing in mind that overhead cable costs $30/km, and poles cost $2000/km. ... >into. Having more conversations active at once might increase the >bandwidth needs of this part, but inside-the-box is so cheap these >days that adding enough for one additional 24 hr/day phone call would >cost close to zero, I'd hope. Our cost for a 4 to 1 multiplexed switches should be $200 per customer for more than 50,000 switches, excluding cost of real property like land, building and power. Let us say this is $100. TOTAL cost for 4 to 1 switch is 400 + 300= 700, for dense areas. If we use 1 to 1 multiplex, we need bigger space, power and more expensive equipment. My guess is 4 times that of the 4 to 1. Roughly total cost for 1 to 1 should be 400 + 300*4= 1600. ... >The voice/data switch that I program at work really would not cost any >more to operate if you used all the voice lines 24 hrs/day than if you >used them 5 minutes/day, just because its cost if you used it as a If all of you use them 24 hours a day, you may have to pay 4 times the capital cost and 4 times space and power to accommodate a new switch. The line cost in your office is negligible. Most probably you cannot put that switch in your small room. -- Disclaimer: I only speak for myself. SABAH is Heaven. Perpetual Clear Blue Sky, Sea and Mountains near modern civilisations, but how long will this last?