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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:5538 comp.unix.bsd:16292 comp.sys.novell:69236 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!ames!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu!sayre From: sayre@cs.sunysb.edu (Johannes Sayre) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd,comp.sys.novell Subject: Re: Put the Cannons Away: Vote YES on newsgroup reformation. Date: 21 Feb 1995 18:57:51 GMT Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook (guest) Lines: 159 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3idd3f$cng@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu> References: <3htgri$jbc@park.uvsc.edu> <kaleb.792882548@exalt> <3i00t3$2u3@park.uvsc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sbpub4.cs.sunysb.edu [ In order to avoid {per,pro}secution of myself and others under S.314, I have self-censored (only appropriate according to current social norms) all profanity in the following to the point where the original foul and indecent usages have been rendered unrecognizable for the average freshman Republican congressman. I feel I am thereby contributing to maintaining community standards in the spirit of this fine bill. But then the article is about maintaining community standards... ] An invitation to play straight man... In article <3i00t3$2u3@park.uvsc.edu> Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu> writes: [stuff about the Usenet Cabal] some cabals are good, some are bad.... :-) Is the government benevolent and acting in the best interests of the people ? I lost Chris Demetriou's article where he said it was reprehensible that the *BSD operating systems were being called UNIX-derived. What's really reprehensible is that the sociopolitical situation in the U.S. is such that a bunch of cornh*ling sh*t-eaters can succeed in getting people to waste time and energy defending themselves from the sh*t-eaters' expectorations of "Nyaaah ! You used our word !!! And you didn't pay us for it ! It's OUR word ! Like Korn Flaeks (TM) ! [Everything is a commodity after all.] If you don't pay us or stop using our word, we're gonna sue you !!! Nyaaaahhhhh !!" (If the reader is thinking at this point, "how naive", or "get over it", uhh, I don't know, blow it out your *ss ? Something like that.) Reminds me of the companies formed by groups of lawyers which bought up marks on which licensing fees weren't being collected only to be able to sue the people using them. Nothing wrong with lawyers, something wrong with the system. But again, everything is a commodity and can be bought and sold. In our little case, I betcha the people who did the original work, the so-called "technical troops", didn't start this trend... I have an idea. Is the name for the trademarked object, this brand of cereal, the precise string "UNIX" in upper-case Latin characters ? If so, let's take advantage of our fine case-sensitive systems, and just use "Unix" instead. Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix Unix. See ? No trademarks. We are, after all, talking about a class of operating systems, and not just AT&T(tm)/USL(tm)/etc.'s instantiation of a member of the class, so we do want to get this right... And everybody does seem to call them "uNiX". If "Unix" doesn't work, how about "Notnix" ? "Yeah, I use a Notnix system at work." Has a nice ring to it, no ? "Of _course_ it's not UNIX(tm), it's _Notnix_ !" (Think I'll trademark the string in all case permutations & make it freely available (can I do that with a trademark ?) before some *sshole beats me to it & sues me for using his licensed mark.) Tastes great, less susceptible to kernel bloat... Derived in concept but not in source from UNIX(tm). If we can get this to work, then the sh*t-eaters can go on rodgering each other in the *ss until Doomsday, and the rest of us can stop donating energy to their parasitic existence and get on with living creative, normal lives - kinda like things were say, pre- circa mid-1990 ? And finally, since an identification was asked for, I'll give you one: (Readers getting bored hit 'n' now.) It's a pyramid. At the lowest (I won't use the suddenly connotation-laden "bottom") layer are some of the poor, some of the old, many of the young, and many of the ignorant. I.e. people with little access to material power. I'm thinking of the kind of people who use the phrase "great men" in the same sentence as "Flush Rimbutt" (did I mispell that ? Awww.) and "Newt Gingrich". (and without a negation in the sentence, either - saw this on one of the alt. groups in a discussion of the naughty postings there.) The kind of folks who vote for a new Congressman every two years "cause he don't do nothin' and they're all the same anyway" (heard this a lot last fall). They're mostly harmless and in any event can't help themselves. The only problematic ones in this layer are the young ones in baseball hats driving more or sometimes less expensive pickups, and the older (ex-service ?) guys who still wear buzz-cuts (and baseball hats), both of whom seem to be enthusiastic foot-soldiers for anyone claiming to be interested in "maintainin' order and terdishnl values, 'n' bein' Strong". Like cannon fodder throughout the ages, though, they don't operate with much autonomy, and can be turned fairly easily. Given a champion of the caliber of say FDR, most would do a fairly quick about-face. The next layer is what I would call "the inconvenienced middle class". Inconvenienced by crime, inconvenienced by taxes, inconvenienced by the poor, just basically inconvenienced. They want those nasty problems to go away. Too uninformed, poorly educated, self-satisfied, and with too short an attention span to actually think about something larger than what's for dinner, they want to make short work of anything that interferes with their petit bourgeois (now I've done it) comfort. With a certain propensity for thinking of them- selves as descendants of hardy pioneers and immigrants who could live lives of rugged austerity and godliness just like their forbears did, and with a fair amount of pragmatic greed, they are easy prey for cynical blathering about a return to personal responsibility and simpler times, and promises that less government will put more money in their pockets. There are no social problems (because there's not much society to speak of), and we can all run about living clean lives, chopping wood, hauling water and sewing by candlelight in the evenings. They think the status quo is just fine, only threatened, and they'd like more of it, and it deserves their earnest and often active protection. At the top of this layer (only one more after this, I promise) is a sublayer of people who can't quite get into all the simpler-times sh*t being promulgated. They know it's sh*t, but the status quo holds different attractions for them. Sandwiched in between the middle class and what used to be called the ruling class before all inequality was eliminated from our society, they are aware of institutional power and how it works to some extent. They reap the material rewards of participating in the system at the level that they do. Generally the folks I have in mind here are not creative leaders, in fact they're the ones who get annoyed when you produce something that is simply good, and want you to tone it down so that their unfortunately more humble efforts can get some of the spotlight too. Here we have people who are aware enough of how institutional power works to be cynical about permitting its excesses and protecting their share, whatever size it may be, of it. The people at the top (oooo!) layer (see, I promised...) of the pyramid fit standard notions of the rich and the influential. Thoroughly aware of how worldwide political and economic power structures work, they often move in international circles, are leading citizens, and at the highest levels operate at a supergovernmental level - the commonplace restraints imposed by nation- state government and observed by the less exalted classes are paid lip-service to as long as they're not an inconvenience. (Yes, it _was_ the Trilateral Commission.) The weaknesses and foibles of the lower layers are exploited to keep them in their place, and to preserve the pyramid. The more the weaknesses and foibles, and the pyramid, can be institutionalized and made self-perpetu- ating, the better. Individual creative activity and individuality in general are dangerous unless controlled, since they put people in touch with absolutes, as opposed to the ultimately weak relative standards of the pyramid, and offer a source of power alternative to and independent of the pyramid. The supreme, overriding goal is preservation of the pyramid, since, as institutions will do, it has attained a life of it own and by its existence justifies both the continuation of that existence and also its perpetuation and growth. The people who make up its layers form subcomponents of greater or lesser awareness. All this might sound like traditional (leftist ? too bad) dogma, except for the fact that in the past few years the natives seem to have become restless and also active - all the way up and down the pyramid. You notice it in ways ranging from lawsuits designed to shore up apparently-threatened private ownership rights to how free strangers in the street feel about letting you know that you don't meet their standards for respectable appearance and deportment. There's been a definite change in the wind which needs reversing. There, I've given you an identification. Nope, it's not the Usenet Cabal. Want "evidence" ? Well, I wouldn't call it that, rather "instances" (again ! hmmm... no, I am not an OOP evangelist. Probably not using the words right for starters). Look around (maybe the next time someone urges you not to rock the boat at work or sniffs at you in the supermarket). Depending on your leanings, you may find that this schema works for you. Maybe this crowd is more worth your attention than the Usenet Cabal ? Maybe you'll even find something to ram down a c*rnholing sh*t-eater's throat. And in any event, awareness is the first step to improvement. Have a good week.