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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!tuegate.tue.nl!rwb.urc.tue.nl!rcpt From: rcpt@rwb.urc.tue.nl (Piet Tutelaers) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: An overview of 17" monitors Message-ID: <rcpt.715301018@rwb.urc.tue.nl> Date: 31 Aug 92 22:43:38 GMT Sender: root@tuegate.tue.nl Reply-To: rcpt@urc.tue.nl Lines: 100 Will 17" monitors soon become affordable? ----------------------------------------- Spending a lot of money in computer power with a 14" monitor seems like buying a splendid stereo equipment and saving on speakers. I am following the 486 prices and hoping that soon or later I can afford an equipment to do some X-window hackery on a 386 based UNIX clone. A 1280x1024 resolution on a 17" monitor seems an acceptable choice. The number of monitors offering this resolution is growing fast. With 1024x768 there are even more and better affordable monitors to select from. But this resolution seems too low for a 17" monitor. I have gathered some information for the 17" monitors available today. So you can use it and help me to improve it with even cheaper alternatives. Aren't we all dreaming of an affordable bigger quality monitor for UNIX? Most data comes from Personal Computer Magazine (Dutch magazine), CHIP (German magazine) and the brochures I got from some Dutch distributors. The prices are taken from Profi Computer (CHIP August 1992 pp. 143) or a cheaper source if that was available. One Deutsche Mark (DM) is about 1.14 Dutch guilders (DG) and about 0.71 dollar. 1. Graphic controllers ---------------------- As important as the monitor itself is the graphics controller that we are going to use. If we want 256 colors (8 bitplanes) on a 1280x1024 screen we need 2 MB RAM (1024x768 only 1MB). I don't know if all cards in the next list can have 2MB RAM (I don't have detailed information on them yet, so any help on this will be appreciated!) Graphic controllers providing 1280x1024 pixels, 256 colors, 72 Hz refresh rate in non-interlaced mode: ---------------------------------------------------- |card type max. memory refresh rate price (DM)| ---------------------------------------------------- |Excelsior PRO ? 76Hz/NI 450 | |Diamond Stealth ? 72Hz/NI? 478 | |Orchid Fahrenheid ? ? ? | ---------------------------------------------------- If we want to run UNIX we also need a X-server that supports the card. >From discussions on the net I understand that the Diamond Stealth has some timing problems and that the supplier is not willing to cooperate in solving them. Information on which cards are or will be supported by 386BSD UNIX is very welcome too. 2. Monitors ----------- In the next table I have put together the monitors that are available in Europe. It contains an overview of important data as refresh rate, dot pitch, does it obey the low transmission MPR-II norm and the price. Data that was not available to me, or where I am not certain about, is flagged with a question mark (?). You are welcome to improve the list with more monitors or with sharper prices! All monitors seems to provide compatibility with other MSDOS standards like VGA (640x480), SVGA (800x600) and 1024x768. For OS/2 there will be developed a new graphic standard but I don't know anything about it. I have omitted the bandwidth because this value is not so meaningfull as the refresh rate at 1280x1024. Monitors with a refresh rate of 74 Hz at 1280x1024 have a minimal bandwidth of 120 MHz (EIZO F560i). With a refresh rate of 60 Hz the bandwidth is about 110 Mhz (4CM Brilliance series of Philips) and this is sufficient to provide a refresh rate of 72 Hz at 1024x768. monitor type refresh rate dot pitch MPR-II price 1280x1024 (Hz) (mm) (DM) EIZO F560i 60-74 0.26 yes 3528 Philips 4CM6099 60 0.26 yes ? Philips 4CM6089 60 0.26 no 2899 Vortec VT-17HI 60-64 0.26 no 2800 Sony 1704S Trinitron ? ? ? 2799 NEC 5FG 74? 0.26 yes 2798 ViewSonic 7 ? ? ? 2480 Miro 1766 ? ? ? 2395 ViewMagic MX-17H Trinitron ? ? ? 2388 Addonics mon-c172 60 0.26 ? 2325 EIZO F550i 60 0.28 yes 2195 Octek 17" ? ? ? 2045 Highscreen MS 1731 ? 0.31 no 1995 Targa TM 1700 ? 0.28 ? 1959 You can see in the computer magazins that there is coming some competition. In the Dutch Personal Computer Magazine from September there are at least 8 advertisements of 17" monitors. I hope that we all soon can afford a 17" flickerfree low radiation monitor for our home computers. --Piet internet: rcpt@urc.tue.nl | Piet Tutelaers bitnet: rcpt@heitue5.BITNET | Computer Center Room RC 1.90 phone: +31 (0)40 474541 | Eindhoven University of Technology fax: +31 (0)40 434438 | P.O. Box 513, 5600 MB Eindhoven, NL Don't translate `flickerfree' into the Dutch `flikkervrij' but in the more men friendlier `knippervrij' (Philips Brilliance brochure).