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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!sunic!sunic.sunet.se!news.funet.fi!news.cc.tut.fi!proffa!t150315 From: t150315@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Tamminen Eero) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: UNIX for the Mac Date: 9 Mar 1995 16:39:30 +0200 Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre Lines: 33 Distribution: world Message-ID: <t150315.794758851@proffa> References: <3j5ccn$19un@tequesta.gate.net> <pde-0203951552410001@bubba.res-hall.nwu.edu> <3jgj3o$2uj@rrunner.jpl.nasa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: proffa.cc.tut.fi X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) Not quite netBSD stuff, but forgive me! In <3jgj3o$2uj@rrunner.jpl.nasa.gov> eldred@rrunner.jpl.nasa.gov (Dan Eldred) writes: >Hey, I had MacMiNT running on a Mac Plus, but it was torture. The shell >was way too slow, and 4 megs of memory was pretty marginal for compiling >any large programs. Hmm... Shells run quite fast on my 8Mhz Atari with virtual consoles (which have the kernel's fastscroll routines inbuilt), but they are not on a window... Gcc 2.3.3 takes less memory than the newer versions (compiles "hello world" on 1MB of free mem, whereas gcc 2.5.8 needs 1.5MB). Another alternative would be SozobonX C linker and assembler with c68k compiler (ported from PCs) and an additional c pre- processor. Not as stable or good as GCC but they work and need far less memory. These are found at least from ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de. I have heard that even MiNT-X (monochrome version) with Chimera (X WWW browser) works on 4MB without VM if one uses a small window manager and shell (ie. not xterm). Hey, I remembered something of relevance to NEtBSD too! I have used ncftp on my machine running MiNT+MiNTNet to download some files from a friend's Amiga running NetBSD (I got all the NetBSD manuals as MiNT is mostly BSD but has itself a quite sparse program documentation). - Eero - Limited computer hardware makes life interesting