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From: t150315@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Tamminen Eero)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: UNIX for the Mac
Date: 9 Mar 1995 16:39:30 +0200
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
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Not quite netBSD stuff, but forgive me!

In <3jgj3o$2uj@rrunner.jpl.nasa.gov> eldred@rrunner.jpl.nasa.gov (Dan Eldred) writes:

>Hey, I had MacMiNT running on a Mac Plus, but it was torture.  The shell
>was way too slow, and 4 megs of memory was pretty marginal for compiling
>any large programs.

Hmm... Shells run quite fast on my 8Mhz Atari with virtual consoles
(which have the kernel's fastscroll routines inbuilt), but they are not
on a window...

Gcc 2.3.3 takes less memory than the newer versions (compiles
"hello world" on 1MB of free mem, whereas gcc 2.5.8 needs 1.5MB).
Another alternative would be SozobonX C linker and assembler
with c68k compiler (ported from PCs) and an additional c pre-
processor. Not as stable or good as GCC but they work and need 
far less memory. These are found at least from ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de.

I have heard that even MiNT-X (monochrome version) with Chimera
(X WWW browser) works on 4MB without VM if one uses a small window
manager and shell (ie. not xterm).


Hey, I remembered something of relevance to NEtBSD too! I have
used ncftp on my machine running MiNT+MiNTNet to download some
files from a friend's Amiga running NetBSD (I got all the NetBSD
manuals as MiNT is mostly BSD but has itself a quite sparse program
documentation).


	- Eero -	Limited computer hardware makes life interesting