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From: lima@io.nosc.mil (jd lima)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Cannot mount root during install?
Date: 14 May 1995 17:15:47 GMT
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Terry Lambert (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote:
: lima <lima> wrote:
: ] tzs@u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) wrote:
: ] >I'm having some problems trying to install FreeBSD 2.0.  I'm trying to
: ] >install on my second IDE drive.  I'm deviating slightly from the

: [ ... ]

: ] I had *exactly* the same problem.  The only thing I can think of now is
: ] that perhaps FreeBSD "will install perfectly fine on a second drive" as
: ] long as it's a SCSI drive -- unfortunately I have two IDE drives:

: One major point: Have you both tried the most recent snap?  It's
: impossible to magically make fixed bits appear on a CDROM.  Even
: if Jordan had a laser and your missle coordinates, I think
: atmospheric distortion would foil him (Jordan can't afford to buy
: adaptive optics).

Ok, Terry.  I'll try the latest SNAP -- thanks for all the really
GOOD observations you made.  I have gone over the events leading
to my latest problem, and I'm no longer sure  that even the latest
SNAP will have any effect:

[snip]
: ] 	- bought a *new* VLB I/O Controller.  This one has on-board BIOS, and
: ] 	 allows driver-less access to >528MB drives.  I thought, "this is just
: ] 	 what I need."  NOW, DOS fdisk sees both drives in their entirety
: ] 	 just fine.

This is the crucial point.  what I now recall happened was that I
tried to just proceed with the BSD installation off the second drive.
Up to this point I had the installation going to my second drive,
than it had that problem with finding the root partition.  I switched
I/O cards, rebooted, and NOW THAT I RECALL, I had the simple boot
manager ON BOTH drives, so I saw something like this at bootup:
	F1	dos
	F3	FreeBSD
	F5	disk2

Now I had made that FreeBSD partition on the 1st drive (after cylinder
1024) intending to use it as '/extra' or something, so I chose F5,
which led to the following:
	F1	dos
	F3	FreeBSD
	F5	disk1

Choosing F3 resulted in my second hard drive SPINNING DOWN.  That's
right, it actually shutdown as soon as I hit F3.  I had to reboot my
machine, and EVER SINCE, MY FREEBSD BOOT FLOPPY will not boot, like
I described before:
: ] 	 just fine.  BUT...FreeBSD boot floppy will not even proceed with the
: ] 	 kernel startup -- it just goes right into a system reboot immediatly
: ] 	 upon system probe sequence.  I only see that '|' -> '/' -> '-' thing
: ] 	 change once or twice, then...reboot.

I confirmed that I see '|', '/', '-', then bam! reboot.  I replace
new I/O card with old -- same prob.  I booted *another* pc with the
floppy, and it works as it always did before (correctly).  I tried
to boot from and older NetBSD 1.0 boot floppy which used to work --
it does the same reboot thing pretty much identically.

Other things that I tried that didn't work:
	- *entirely* reformatted EVERYTHING (both drives,
	  repartitioned...)
	- pulled *every* card out of my machine except video
	  and I/O cards.
	- disconnected every (external) cable from my machine
	  except power and video.
	- made each drive the *only* drive, each in turn.
	- used DOS 'fdisk /mbr' to wipe boot manager of both drives.
	- installed OS-BS (provided on FBSD2.0 CD-ROM) on 1st drive
	  only.

I can't think of what else to do -- except try the latest SNAP, and 
right now I don't think that's going to do much, but what else can I
try?.  I can use my system just fine -- as long as it has nothing to
do with BSD.  What's going on here?  

: I can't speak for the exact failure of FreeBSD 2.0; like I said,
: it isn't current, and it's not something for which there would be
: a workaround without replacing your boot disks.
--
John D. Lima
lima@nosc.mil	-- with standard disclaimers, etc.