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Xref: sserve comp.unix.misc:17370 comp.unix.bsd.misc:85 Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!news.alpha.net!news.mathworks.com!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!jadestar From: jadestar@netcom.com (JaDe) Subject: Re: Where do I find UNIX kernel and apps? Message-ID: <jadestarDACHq1.BIA@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3rr11t$adl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 01:34:48 GMT Lines: 69 Sender: jadestar@netcom17.netcom.com In days of yore (16 Jun 1995 04:24:28 GMT) Lord Vader (jryan@eng.umd.edu) bespake: ::I'm interested in installing UNIX on my PC and I'd like to know what FTP ::sites I can get the kernel and apps from; I've been searching all night ::and all I've found is Linux. Any help with installation would be helpful ::too. Thanx. :: Darth Linux is the predominate freeware Unix for the PC. The only other family of *nixes for the PC that you can find on the net is the 386BSD/FreeBSD/NetBSD clan. I don't know an ftp site just offhand but I bet a peek at the FAQ for the comp.os.386bsd.* hierarchy will help. O.K. -- I just realized that you'd obviously never heard of the Jolitz PC port of BSD (under any of it's various names) so you probably would have trouble tracking down the FAQ. Rather than send you to re-ask the same question over there (which, by the way has moved from comp.os.* to comp.unix.* recently) I went to rtfm.mit.edu and grabbed the FAQ myself. I'd include a copy but it would be a bit of a shocker -- almost a half meg. in your inbox. Glancing through it I see that 386BSD is no longer available but that FreeBSD and NetBSD live on. They can be located at: [quoting the FAQ:] According to Lynne Jolitz, there is no such thing as an 'official' 386bsd site. The closest we had was 'agate.berkeley.edu' which is now closed. Because of the USL/UCB agreement, 386bsd is no longer freely redistributable, since it was based on Net/2 and Net/2 was encumbered. FreeBSD's 'home' is FreeBSD.cdrom.com (the home disk of Walnut Creek). The portions of FreeBSD (versions less than 2.0) that were encumbered are distributed with the tolerance of AT&T/USL/Novell/whoever owns the source for SysV this week. All FreeBSD versions (with version number >= 2.0) are based solely on the freely redistributable BSD 4.4 sources. NetBSD's 'home' is now ftp.NetBSD.Org. All versions of NetBSD since 0.9 have replaced the kernel code from the 4.3 distribution with the source from the 4.4 distribution. The only code still in NetBSD from the 4.3 distribution is some user program code that was uncontested in the USL/UCB agreement. [End Quote] So, hopefully that'll take care of you. One of these days I ought to give Net/FreeBSD a try. Just to see how it differs from Linux. Personally I think Linus was right -- he owed an undue amount of the early success of his OS over the Jolitz' more mature work to having a "sexier" name. Maybe it's not too late to call it "Jolix" -- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// JaDeStar if ( you.can == read (this) ) { you.can.be = a - c[programmer]; }