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From: jadestar@netcom.com (JaDe)
Subject: Re: Where do I find UNIX kernel and apps?
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In days of yore (16 Jun 1995 04:24:28 GMT) 
Lord Vader (jryan@eng.umd.edu) bespake:

::I'm interested in installing UNIX on my PC and I'd like to know what FTP
::sites I can get the kernel and apps from; I've been searching all night 
::and all I've found is Linux.  Any help with installation would be helpful 
::too.  Thanx.

::                                                       Darth

	Linux is the predominate freeware Unix for the PC. 
	The only other family of *nixes for the PC that you can 
	find on the net is the 386BSD/FreeBSD/NetBSD clan.  
	I don't know an ftp site just offhand but I bet a peek at
	the FAQ for the comp.os.386bsd.* hierarchy will help.
	
	O.K. -- I just realized that you'd obviously never heard
	of the Jolitz PC port of BSD (under any of it's various
	names) so you probably would have trouble tracking down 
	the FAQ.  Rather than send you to re-ask the same question
	over there (which, by the way has moved from comp.os.* to 
	comp.unix.* recently) I went to rtfm.mit.edu and grabbed the
	FAQ myself. 

	I'd include a copy but it would be a bit of a shocker --
	almost a half meg. in your inbox.

	Glancing through it I see that 386BSD is no longer available
	but that FreeBSD and NetBSD live on.  They can be located at:

[quoting the FAQ:]

        According to Lynne Jolitz, there is no such thing as an 'official' 
        386bsd site.  The closest we had was 'agate.berkeley.edu' which is 
        now closed.  Because of the USL/UCB agreement, 386bsd is no
        longer freely redistributable, since it was based on Net/2 and
        Net/2 was encumbered.

        FreeBSD's 'home' is FreeBSD.cdrom.com (the home disk of Walnut
        Creek).  The portions of FreeBSD (versions less than 2.0) that
        were encumbered are distributed with the tolerance of
        AT&T/USL/Novell/whoever owns the source for SysV this week.  All
        FreeBSD versions (with version number >= 2.0) are based solely
        on the freely redistributable BSD 4.4 sources.

        NetBSD's 'home' is now ftp.NetBSD.Org.  All versions of
        NetBSD since 0.9 have replaced the kernel code from the 4.3 
        distribution with the source from the 4.4 distribution.  The
        only code still in NetBSD from the 4.3 distribution is some user
        program code that was uncontested in the USL/UCB agreement.

[End Quote]

	So, hopefully that'll take care of you.
	
	One of these days I ought to give Net/FreeBSD a try.  Just
	to see how it differs from Linux.

	Personally I think Linus was right -- he owed an undue amount
	of the early success of his OS over the Jolitz' more mature
	work to having a "sexier" name.  Maybe it's not too late to call
	it "Jolix"


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