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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!simtel!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.biu.ac.il!vms.huji.ac.il!shum.cc.huji.ac.il!nntpserver.huji.ac.il!amoss Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: What is BSD Message-ID: <AMOSS.95Jul16184021@picton.cs.huji.ac.il> From: amoss@picton.cs.huji.ac.il (Amos Shapira) Date: 16 Jul 1995 15:40:21 GMT References: <3ta683$ujm@newsflash.hol.gr> <3tur0n$7tt@park.uvsc.edu> Distribution: world Organization: Inst. of Comp. Sci., Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel NNTP-Posting-Host: picton.cs.huji.ac.il In-reply-to: Terry Lambert's message of 11 Jul 1995 21:38:31 GMT Lines: 58 Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu> writes: jliabot@prometheus.hol.gr (Ioannis D. Liampotis) wrote: ] ] Hi!! I wanted to know what type of Unix BSD is ( System V ? ) or something ] like that. BSD is Berkeley Standard Distribution. Berkeley *Software* Distribtion, as far as I remember. ] Why BSD is not so popular? Mostly historic reasons - back in the days when UNIX wasn't as known as it is today - UCB couldn't support it commercially while AT&T's SysV was supported commercially. So vendors got on the SysV wagon earlier, while universities - which had to pay only for the 9-track tapes and got full source code, "played" with 4.* BSD. You mean "Why don't DEC, Sun, Gould, Pyramid, Motorolla, USL, Novell, etc., etc,, sell UNIX derived from BSD source code"? DEC's "Digital UNIX" ("the OS formerly known as OSF/1", "Ni!!") is based on Mach, even though it has some feel of BSD (there are still fragmants of the format of the kernel configuration files! :-) I don't think Mach is based on BSD (is it?) (and DEC's main involvment with BSD is just because their VAX superminis were the standard platform used at UCB) USL - Unix Systems(?) Labs? That's AT&T SysV, isn't it? Weren't they bought by USL? Sun - Up to SunOS 4.* (aka "Solaris 1.*") their use of BSD was the main reason I liked to work on their platforms, but alas they converted to SysVr4 (no religious wars please, I like SGI IRIX too, but NOT what I've seen on Solaris 2 so far) Novell?? - Didn't they buy USL (SysV)? Do they have another, BSD-based, OS? You forgot IBM's RT - don't remember what exactly was the name of the OS but it was definatly a BSD 4.[23]+ (Tahoe?) machine. About the only thing from "back then" I liked in IBM's products. They do. BSD is immensely "popular", not that this is a popularity contest or anything. Nope, it isn't. But I suppose it is legitimate of people to wonder "what should they learn". Cheers, --Amos -- --Amos Shapira | "Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory, for its people had been chosen Jerusalem 93 805 | by the finest judges in England." ISRAEL amoss@cs.huji.ac.il | -- Anonymous