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#! rnews 16519 sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au Xref: sserve comp.unix.aux:18347 comp.unix.bsd:16700 comp.sys.mac.system:89634 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!simtel!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!ankh.iia.org!news From: Marco Cappuccio <nocturno@ios.com> Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: MacBSD question... Date: 18 Jul 1995 04:36:43 GMT Organization: International Internet Association Lines: 365 Message-ID: <3ufdor$c5j@ankh.iia.org> References: <trevor-1407950008080001@c18.globalvision.net> <1995Jul14.113427@ail3.montefiore.ulg.ac.be> <3u7kgq$kbl@rebecca.albany.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.4.70.120 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: jk7023@CNSVAX.ALBANY.EDU X-URL: news:3u7kgq$kbl@rebecca.albany.edu > I'm currious.... Where could I find MacBSD? I hope this helps: What is NetBSD? ---- -- ------ NetBSD is a Berkeley Networking Release 2 (Net/2) and 4.4BSD-Lite -derived system. It is a fully functional UN*X-like system which runs on several architectures and is being ported to more. NetBSD, as the name implies, is a creation of the members of the network community and without the net it's likely that this release wouldn't have come about. NetBSD 1.0 is a milestone release. The hardest part of the 4.4BSD-Lite integration, the kernel, has been completed and has been running in "production use" for quite some time. Also, NetBSD 1.0 is the first true multi-architecture release of NetBSD. At the time of NetBSD 0.9, the 1 port was considered 'production quality' and the hp300 port was barely working. The NetBSD 1.0 source supports nine architectures, and complete binary releases for most of them will be made available. NetBSD 1.0 supports many new and improved features, the most important relating to file systems. New and improved versions of both the Berkeley Fast File System and the free implementation of the NFS protocol were provided, as part of the 4.4-Lite release. The new versions include such improvements as support for 64-bit file sizes, for local files, and "lease" support for NFS, to improve performance. In addition to the file system improvements, many other parts of the system have been improved considerably. For instance, the virtual memory code has substantially improved performance, and many of the kernel's interfaces have been cleaned up. Many new user programs have been added in NetBSD 1.0, as well, bringing it closer to our goal of supplying a complete UN*X-like environment. Additionally, support for shared libraries has been added, for most architectures, allowing a significant savings in both RAM consumption and disk space. NetBSD 1.0 is the first "real" release of NetBSD for the mac68k. Previous releases have been alpha or beta quality. There is still a lot of work to be done, but this should be a usable system for a number of people. Quite a few features are available: shared libraries, new file systems, binary compatibility with the other m68k ports for most binaries, SunOS compatibility, and numerous others. The Future of NetBSD: --- ------ -- ------ We hope to have regular releases of the full binary and source trees, but these are difficult to coordinate, especially with all of the architectures which we now support! We hope to support even _more_ hardware in the future, and have a rather large number of other ideas about what can be done to improve NetBSD. We intend to continue our current practice of making the NetBSD-current development source available on a daily or nearly-daily basis. We intend to integrate free, positive changes from whatever sources will provide them, providing that they are well thought-out and increase the usability of the system. This includes integrating the remainder of the 4.4BSD-Lite tape, as quickly as we can ensure that everything works properly. Above all, we hope to create a stable and accessible system, and to be responsive to the needs and desires of NetBSD users, because it is for and because of them that NetBSD exists. Sources of NetBSD: ------- -- ------ Host name Services Provided ---- ---- -------- -------- ftp.iastate.edu Anonymous FTP, AFS Anon-FTP path: pub/netbsd/NetBSD-1.0 AFS path: /afs/iastate.edu/public/ftp/pub/netbsd/NetBSD-1.0 ftp.eecs.umich.edu Anonymous FTP Anon-FTP path: BSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 gatekeeper.dec.com Anonymous FTP Anon-FTP path: pub/BSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 wipux2.wifo.uni-mannheim.de Anonymous FTP, SUP Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 SUP: get the file pub/misc/sup/supfile.example via anonymous FTP and read it as an example. ftp.demon.co.uk Anonymous FTP, possibly SUP Anon-FTP path: pub/BSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 SUP: contact peter@demon.net for SUP server status/information ftp.uni-regensburg.de Anonymous FTP Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 ftp.unit.no Anonymous FTP Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 ftp.stacken.kth.se Anonymous FTP Anon-FTP path: pub/OS/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 flick.lerc.nasa.gov Anonymous FTP Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 coombs.anu.edu.au Anonymous FTP Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 ftp.netbsd.org Anonymous FTP, SUP Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.0 SUP: get the file pub/sup/README.sup via anonymous FTP from ftp.netbsd.org, and read it for instructions. If you wish to become a distribution site for NetBSD, contact Chris Demetriou <cgd@NetBSD.ORG>. NetBSD 1.0 Release Contents: ------ --- ------- -------- The NetBSD 1.0 release is organized in the following way: ../NetBSD-1.0/ BUGS Known bugs list (incomplete and out of date). CHANGES Changes since NetBSD's last release (and before). LAST_MINUTE Last minute changes. MIRRORS A list of sites that mirror the NetBSD 1.0 distribution. README.files README describing the distribution's contents. TODO NetBSD's todo list (incomplete and out of date). patches/ Post-release source code patches. source/ Source distribution sets; see below. In addition to the files and directories listed above, there is one directory per architecture, for each of the architectures that NetBSD 1.0 has a binary distribution for. There are also 'README.export-control' files sprinkled liberally throughout the distribution tree, which point out that there are some portions of the distribution (e.g. those containing crypt(3)) that should not be exported from the United States, and that if you do export them, it's your fault, not ours. The source distribution sets can be found in subdirectories of the "source" subdirectory of the distribution tree. They contain the complete sources to the system, excluding those portions which should not be exported from the U.S. (Those are contained in each architecture's "security" binary distribution set.) The source distribution sets are as follows: gsrc10 This set contains the "gnu" sources, including the source for the compiler, assembler, groff, and the other GNU utilities in the binary distribution sets. [ 7.7M gzipped, 32.0M uncompressed ] ksrc10 This set contains the sources to the NetBSD 1.0 kernel, config(8), config.new(8) and dbsym(8). [ 4.5M gzipped, 20.8M uncompressed ] ssrc10 This set contains the "share" sources, which include the sources for the man pages not associated with any particular program, the sources for the typesettable document set, the dictionaries, and more. [ 2.3M gzipped, 8.5M uncompressed ] src10 This set contains all of the NetBSD 1.0 sources which are not mentioned above. [ 7.1M gzipped, 33.4M uncompressed ] It is worth noting that unless all of the source distribution sets are installed, you can't rebuild and install the system from scratch, straight out of the box. However, all that is required to rebuild the system in that case is a trivial modification to one Makefile. The source distribution sets are distributed as groups of files named "set_name.xx" where "set_name" is the distribution set name, and "xx" is the sequence number of the file, starting with "aa" for the first file in the distribution set, then "ab" for the next, and so on. All of these files except the last one of each set should be exactly 240,640 bytes long. (The last file is just long enough to contain the remainder of the data for that distribution set.) Catted together, the files belonging to a source distribution set comprise a gzipped tar file. If you want to look at list of the files contained in the set, you could use the command: cat set_name.?? | gunzip | tar tvf - or to actually extract the files contained in the set: cat set_name.?? | gunzip | tar xfp - In each of the source distribution set directories, there is a file named "CKSUMS" which contains the checksums of the files in that directory, as generated by the cksum(1) command. You can use cksum to check the integrity of the archives, if you suspect that one of the files is corrupt and have access to a cksum binary. The mac68k-specific portion of the NetBSD 1.0 release is found in the "mac68k" subdirectory of the distribution. That subdirectory is laid out as follows: ../NetBSD-1.0/mac68k/ binary/ mac68k binary distribution sets; see below. security/ mac68k security distribution; see below. utils/ The mac68k installation utilities. The NetBSD/mac68k binary distribution sets contain the binaries which comprise the NetBSD 1.0 release for the mac68k. There are eight binary distribution sets, and the "security" distribution set. The binary distribution sets can be found in subdirectories of the "mac68k/binary" subdirectory of the NetBSD 1.0 distribution tree, and are as follows: netbsd10 The NetBSD/mac68k 1.0 kernel binary. You MUST install this file. It is the kernel that you need to boot the system. [ 307K gzipped, 610K uncompressed ] base10 The NetBSD/mac68k 1.0 base binary distribution. You MUST install this distribution set. It contains the base NetBSD utilities that are necessary for the system to run and be minimally functional. It includes shared library support, and excludes everything described below. [ 6.2M gzipped, 18.4M uncompressed ] comp10 The NetBSD/mac68k Compiler tools. All of the tools relating to C, C++, and FORTRAN (yes, there are two!). This set includes the system include files (/usr/include), the linker, the compiler tool chain, and the various system libraries (except the shared libraries, which are included as part of the base set). This set also includes the manual pages for all of the utilities it contains, as well as the system call and library manual pages. [ 4.0M gzipped, 12.7M uncompressed ] etc10 This distribution set contains the system configuration files that reside in /etc and in several other places. This set MUST be installed if you are installing the system from scratch, but should NOT be used if you are upgrading. (If you are upgrading, it's recommended that you get a copy of this set and CAREFULLY upgrade your configuration files by hand.) [ 50K gzipped, 280K uncompressed ] games10 This set includes the games and their manual pages. [ 1.0M gzipped, 3.0M uncompressed ] man10 This set includes all of the manual pages for the binaries and other software contained in the base set. Note that it does not include any of the manual pages that are included in the other sets. [ 0.7M gzipped, 2.8M uncompressed ] misc10 This set includes the system dictionaries (which are rather large), the typesettable document set, and man pages for other architectures which happen to be installed from the source tree by default. [ 1.6M gzipped, 5.7M uncompressed ] text10 This set includes NetBSD's text processing tools, including groff, all related programs, and their manual pages. [ 0.8M gzipped, 2.9M uncompressed ] The mac68k security distribution set is named "secr10" and can be found in the "mac68k/security" subdirectory of the NetBSD 1.0 distribution tree. It contains the crypt libraries (for the DES encryption algorithm) and the binaries which depend on it. It can only be found on those sites which carry the complete NetBSD distribution and that can legally obtain it. (Remember, because of United States law, this distribution set may not be exported to locations outside of the United States and Canada.) [ 109K gzipped, 260K uncompressed ] The mac68k binary distribution sets are distributed in the same form as the source distribution sets; catted together, the members of a set form a gzipped tar file. The instructions given for extracting the source sets work equally well for the binary sets, but it is worth noting that if you use that method, the files are extracted "below" the current directory. That is, if you want to extract the binaries "into" your system, i.e. replace the system binaries with them, you have to run the "tar xfp" from /. Also note that if you upgrade or install this way, those programs that you are using at the time will NOT be replaced. If you follow the normal installation or upgrade procedures, this will be taken care of for you. NetBSD System Requirements and Supported Devices: ------ ------ ------------ --- --------- ------- NetBSD/mac68k 1.0 runs on several of the older Macintosh computers. 4MB of RAM should be sufficient to boot and the system can probably be squeezed onto a 40MB hard disk by leaving off a package or two. To actually do much compiling or anything more interesting than booting, at least 8MB of RAM and more disk space is recommended. About 50MB will be necessary to install all of the NetBSD 1.0 binary distribution (note that this does not count swap space!). Much more disk space is required to install the source and objects as well (about another 105MB). Supported models: Mac II Mac IIx Mac IIcx Mac IIci Mac SE/30 Supported devices on all of the above systems include: Internal SCSI bus and most SCSI tapes, hard drives, and CD-ROMs Internal sound--enough to beep, anyway Most basic NuBUS video cards (there have been some problems with some 24-bit color cards) Both internal serial ports ADB keyboards and mice Some systems will boot and are usable from an external terminal (serial tty or SL/IP): Mac IIsi Mac IIvx possibly others What isn't supported, but often asked about: Ethernet cards. There is a driver that is very close to working for a number of cards. Contributions are very welcome. 68040-based Macs. Work is in progress on getting a Quadra 700 running. This requires a new scsi driver and a new ethernet driver.