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From: Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: What is BSD
Date: 23 Jul 1995 08:55:06 GMT
Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah
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amoss@picton.cs.huji.ac.il (Amos Shapira) wrote:
] ] Why BSD is not so popular?
]
] You mean "Why don't DEC, Sun, Gould, Pyramid, Motorolla, USL,
] Novell, etc., etc,, sell UNIX derived from BSD source code"?
]
] DEC's "Digital UNIX" ("the OS formerly known as OSF/1", "Ni!!") is
] based on Mach, even though it has some feel of BSD (there are still
] fragmants of the format of the kernel configuration files! :-) I don't
] think Mach is based on BSD (is it?) (and DEC's main involvment with
] BSD is just because their VAX superminis were the standard platform
] used at UCB)
There's BSD code in there. It has UFS, for one.
] USL - Unix Systems(?) Labs? That's AT&T SysV, isn't it? Weren't they
] bought by USL?
USL UNIX is the only name I could come up with for the SVR4
still sold by the AT&T personal systems division (the former NCR).
It's also what it happens to claim for the copyright when it boots.
] Sun - Up to SunOS 4.* (aka "Solaris 1.*") their use of BSD was the
] main reason I liked to work on their platforms, but alas they
] converted to SysVr4 (no religious wars please, I like SGI IRIX too,
] but NOT what I've seen on Solaris 2 so far)
SunOS >= 5.x (Solaris) is SVR4 and therfore arguably >50% BSD
derived code.
] Novell?? - Didn't they buy USL (SysV)? Do they have another,
] BSD-based, OS?
Novell's UNIX is UnixWare, which is the productized SVR4; it's
different than vanilla SVR4.
] You forgot IBM's RT - don't remember what exactly was the name of the
] OS but it was definatly a BSD 4.[23]+ (Tahoe?) machine. About the only
] thing from "back then" I liked in IBM's products.
The RT isn't still around; the others are. 8-).
] They do. BSD is immensely "popular", not that this is a popularity
] contest or anything.
]
] Nope, it isn't. But I suppose it is legitimate of people to wonder
] "what should they learn".
Yeah, it is. I took the initial "as popular" to refer to Linux.
Terry Lambert
terry@cs.weber.edu
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