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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!simtel!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!hookup!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!usenet From: Jon Jenkins <jenkinsj@ozy.dec.com> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: The Future of FreeBSD... Date: 31 Jul 1995 08:14:17 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corp Lines: 62 Message-ID: <3vi3cp$j4u@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <3uktse$d9c@hal.nt.tuwien.ac.at> <3us0rg$7ph@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <id.GFWL1.CG3@nmti.com> <3v42d4$qmb@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <id.KGYL1._I4@nmti.com> <3vgq18$6vk@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ozyd13-p3.ozy.dec.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; BSD/386 uname failed) X-URL: news:3vgq18$6vk@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu dobrien@seas.gwu.edu (David O'Brien) wrote: >Peter da Silva (peter@nmti.com) wrote: ..snip more scathing NT remarks. Just beacuse NT has some/many/numerous/infinite number of bad points is NOT relevant. One of it's good point is it has a good GUI and developoment tools (best is yet to come when Delphi ports to NT). This one good point i.e. GUI, seems to be VERY VERY important to the average user. Just because FreeBSD may adopt a GUI for sysadmin etc does not mean it will adopt all/any of NT's (or Windows or Mac's) bad points. A good GUI on top of a good OS (aka FreeBSD) would make it more popular with users. If this is desired then a quick easy GUI development toolset would ease the porting of the many existing obtuse scripts/files and design of new ones by allowing Mr/Mrs/Ms Average user to develop GUIs without having to spend the next few years learning Xt/Xlib etc. The idea is that many hands will make light work and the many hands will be there IF there is an easy to use GUI based GUI builder. To show you what happens when someone does this. Borlands Delphi is an Object based event driven drag'n'drop GUI builder for Windows/Win95. When Delphi was released it went to the #6 position in sw sales and is still there. The newsgroup comp.lang.pascal went from a relatively quiet group to the busiest newsgroup on the net. Who ever heard of a compiler being in the Top 10? The reason is simple: any idiot could design really spiffy interfaces for Windows while only knowing a fraction of Windows internals. "Want a slider?, no problem: click, click, done" "Want an SQL engine?: click, drag, drop, next ?" "Want a file/print dialog'? click, click done" "Want to build your own component? click, click..., type few lines, pull up integrated bitmap/icon/cursor/XXX editor, rebuild library, done" etc Jon -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Dr Jon Jenkins Location: Digital Equipment Corporation NaC Voice/Fax: 61-7-55-75-0151/100 Burnett Place, Research Park, Inet: jenkinsj@ozy.dec.com Bond University, Gold Coast Close Proximity: "HEY YOU !!!" QLD, AUSTRALIA 4229 "Daddy, what's outside the Universe?" (My 5 year old.....) -----------------------------------------------------------------------