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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!simtel!agis!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!cygnus.com!news.zeitgeist.net!usenet From: "Amancio Hasty, Jr." <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: The Future of FreeBSD... Date: 24 Jul 1995 18:16:36 GMT Organization: TLGnet, a division of RGNet, Inc. Lines: 39 Message-ID: <3v0o24$htm@kadath.zeitgeist.net> References: <3uktse$d9c@hal.nt.tuwien.ac.at> <id.O5SL1.SP6@nmti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rah.star-gate.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) X-URL: news:id.O5SL1.SP6@nmti.com peter@nmti.com (Peter da Silva) wrote: >In article <3uktse$d9c@hal.nt.tuwien.ac.at>, >Martin Birgmeier <martin@hal.nt.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: >> 2) FreeBSD developers are more or less reinventing the wheel, and even >> that wheel is basically from the stone-age of OSs as well... I >> understand that there is going a large amount of effort into making >> FreeBSD an advanced Unix system (unified buffer cache comes to mind), >> but basically it's still the same old story. > >FreeBSD *is* an advanced UNIX system. > >> 1) In order to separate FreeBSD from the rest of the free Unix efforts, >> merge with Lites as developed by Johannes Helander *as soon as >> possible* > >I would rather not. FreeBSD runs in 4M of RAM. It's totally solid and fast >with X in 16M. Going to Lites will probably double the kernel size and make >a serious impact on memory requirements. >-- I am not sure that Lites would buy us anything ... In fact initially it will be like running 386bsd alpha which is not a very good prospect after taking the 4.4 bsd upgrade path hit. Oh, and I ran Lites/FreeBSD and managed to run doom under FreeBSD/Lites. No X server though because at the time there was not X server readily available for Lites and I didn't feel like compiling one for Lites and the FreeBSD X server didn't run with Lites so it was back to 101 for X servers. Yes, I heard that the Lites group had X running but my impression was that it was not well supported and that they didn't use that much. If anyone wants perl, tcl/tk, guile,etc.. they can compile it or add the package to their system is really not a big deal. Think of a package like an option for your system. To add a package download it from the net or cd to your FreeBSD cdrom distribution and type "pkg_add <whatever>". Amancio