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From: j@bonnie.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Future of FreeBSD...
Date: 24 Jul 1995 10:23:55 +0200
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Michael Hoess <hoessml@track.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:
>>Perhaps it is time to start integrating
>>tools like TCL/Tk and expect and PERL into the system in the same way
>>that X and USENET and vi have been added.
Btw., Perl became part of the system several months ago. There's even
a growing amount of system commands using it (e.g. adduser, catman).
Many people consider Tcl a less thoroughful designed hack, however.
>And on the other side I think such stone-age tools like vi should be kicked out
>(since they make people who worked with comforable DOS-Editors run away) and
>replace them with other editors like JOE.
No. Even though i'm a vi-hater, there are far too many people who are
used to have it, and you cannot neglect that it is _the_ standard Unix
editor now (and has totally replaced ed in this field, even though
some SysV man pages for ed still claim:
ed(1) ed(1)
NAME
ed, red - text editor
SYNOPSIS
ed [-s] [-p string ] [-x] [-C] [file]
red [-s] [-p string ] [-x] [-C] [file]
DESCRIPTION
ed is the standard text editor. If the file argument is given, ed
...
I agree that there may be editors better suited for beginners, while
they cannot cope with the variety of things you can do with vi. Other
people (like me) are able to do all this (and way more) with Emacs,
but it's just the same: a powerful tool, but nothing for the first-
time or casual user, rather something as complex like an Integrated
Development Environment.
There must be (and there is) room for several such things, and it's
mostly a matter of personal taste which to use.
--
cheers, J"org private: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de
http://www.sax.de/~joerg/
Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)