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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!simtel!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news.sprintlink.net!helena.MT.net!nate From: nate@trout.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: The Future of FreeBSD... Date: 25 Jul 1995 17:39:59 GMT Organization: SRI Intl. - Montana Operations Lines: 47 Message-ID: <3v3a9f$47q@helena.MT.net> References: <DC6vJ3.L53@news.central.com> <3v01bh$q7q@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Reply-To: "Nate Williams" <nate@sneezy.sri.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: trout.sri.mt.net In article <3v01bh$q7q@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, Jon Jenkins <jenkinsj@ozy.dec.com> wrote: >>If you look at all of the good things that are in NT and OS/2 they all >>originated with work done on the Unix operating system. Well, with OS/2 >>some came also from IBM's work on SYS/36 but the point is there. > >This is patently untrue. NT is based on the mach kernel Just for clarification, NT is *NOT* based on the mach kernel, although a few of the big Mach folks do work for M$, and probably have brought in many of the features of Mach into NT. AFAIK, NT is still a monolith kernel, although it has loadable drivers which give it a 'micro-kernelish' flavor. But, Sun boxes have been doing this for awhile and all of the free *nix clones also have this ability as well. >>Commercial vendors simply don't have the ability to allow the wide lattitude >>for truely revolutionary ideas to be brought to fufillment. All >>commercial businesses that are really successful in the computer business >>have strong ties to academic institutions, either official ties or >>unofficial. Businesses are really great at taking a good idea that isin't >>really fleshed out and refining the heck out of it to make it palatable to the >>consumer. But, they stink at coming up with truely original ideas. > >Im sure the VMS people at DEC would also be heartened >to hear this comment. Alot of really neat stuff was done in VMS, and a lot of credit must be given to Apollo for DNS. But, I think that most *truly* new ideas have come from educational institutions because they don't have anything to lose if the project fails. > The most successful computer buisness of them all: MS has no ties to > any academic institution apart from selling sw to students. And it has yet to provide anything revolutionary in terms of software. Nate -- nate@sneezy.sri.com | Research Engineer, SRI Intl. - Montana Operations nate@trout.sri.MT.net | Loving life in God's country, the great state of work #: (406) 449-7662 | Montana. Wanna go fishing? Send me email, and we'll home #: (406) 443-7063 | setup something.