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Xref: sserve gnu.misc.discuss:6216 comp.org.eff.talk:9040 comp.unix.bsd:5027 comp.os.mach:2138 misc.int-property:519 Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,misc.int-property,alt.suit.att-bsdi Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!torn!utgpu!scooptram.utcs!glenn From: glenn@scooptram.utcs.utoronto.ca (Glenn Mackintosh) Subject: Re: Are you sure UNIX is a trade mark? Message-ID: <BuJJ19.B17@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (USENET) Organization: UTCS Campus Access References: <farrow.716074432@fido.Colorado.EDU> <18ns8rINNd81@agate.berkeley.edu> <1992Sep11.084516.16908@infodev.cam.ac.uk> <1992Sep11.123540.19263@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:39:09 GMT Lines: 39 In <1992Sep11.123540.19263@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes: >Asprin and Lineoleum were once brand names. But common usage (that's us, >dude) dictated that the brands had become generic. Specifically, in the >case of Aspirin, there were other companies selling the drug (under the >name (I hope I spell this right) acetacylic pain releiver), but only >the trademark holder, Bayer, could use the name Asprin. Eventually, >someone else used the name Asprin. Bayer sued, and *lost* because they >had not taken appropriate steps to express Asprin as a brand name instead >of just a plain ol' noun. >Greg Trotter -- Norman, Oklahoma >greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu I don't know about Linoleum but you're mistaken about what happened with Asprin. I just read this in a trivia bit in the Toronto Star newspaper the other day. I tried to dig it up just now and couldn't find it, however I can give you the gist of the story. Basically, before the second world war Asprin was a trademark of a German company called something Bayer or Bayer something (it could be A.G. Bayer as you say in your article but it doesn't sound like the name I don't remember :-). Anyway, after the war the allies for some reason, the article didn't say why, demanded that the trademark be released as part of Germany's war reparations. In some countries Bayer later successfully challenged this and regained the trademark status but failed in others. For example, the trademark is apparently good in Canada but not in the U.S. You could be part right, that in the U.S. they may have lost the suit to reclaim the trademark because it had become "a plain ol' noun" during the period that the trademark had been relinquished. However, I doubt that this example is a particularly good precedent. The Linoleum example may be more relevant but I don't know anything about it so I can't say. Glenn Mackintosh University of Toronto INTERNET: glenn@onet.on.ca, UUCP: uunet!utcs!glenn, BITNET: glenn@utorgpu