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From: michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: I have one thing to say about Windows '95 & FreeBSD
Date: 02 Sep 1995 07:42:01 GMT
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In-reply-to: "Amancio Hasty, Jr."'s message of 31 Aug 1995 02:27:24 GMT
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In article <4236mc$p8g@kadath.zeitgeist.net> "Amancio Hasty, Jr." <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> writes:

   adt@netcom.com (Anthony D. Tribelli) wrote:

   >Is the FreeBSD community so insecure that they feel the need to create
   >these contrived problems where FreeBSD can come to the rescue?

   First of all, I did not set out to create a fictitious problem. 
   All I wanted to do at the time was to run a "demo" that is it.
   Oh, I don't know it was my first experience with Win95.5 and I am not
   proclaiming to be an expert on Win95.5 . However, the fault of the real problem 
   lies with Win95.5 and not with me . As I said before if Win95.5 

I'm not a Windows advocate in any way, but...  I also dislike
misleading information...

Not to be confrontational, but actually, I think the real problem lies
with you.  You don't know anything about Windows 95.  This isn't a
crime, but you shouldn't be slamming something you don't know anything
about.  If you had been knowledgeable on Win95, you could have
side-stepped your problems in any number of ways.  Your problems were
not the fault of the OS, any more than it's the fault of FreeBSD that
it won't run Linux binaries unless you compile the Linux emulation
into the kernel.  You're a unix expert, give Win95 the benefit of the
doubt in its own back yard.

   >I'm sure Win95 has plenty of real flaws, could we try discussing them
   >instead of this contrived crap? 

   Lets see, since Win95 has multitasking does it support paging or does
   all the process' space needs to reside in memory?

It has full multitasking and full multithreading support.  I don't
know how it does paging; I only know it has "virtual memory".

   Does Win95 provide pre-emptive scheduling for 32bit applications?

Yes.

   Has anyone benchmark a Win95 WebServer? I am assuming that such a thing
   already exists for Win95.

I have a feeling a WebServer on Win95 would be for a very small scope.
Microsoft themselves will tell you to buy Windows NT if you want to
run anything server based larger than a small office.

   With tcp/ip, How fast is Win95's file sharing against something like NFS?

I imagine it's comparable.  And substantially more secure, if you have
a Windows NT machine doing site authentication.  I'm sure many people
would agree that NFS is the poster boy for archaic poorly-implemented
file sharing.  AFS might be a better benchmark for really good file
sharing.

   Can the release version of Win95's tcp/ip do routing?

Yes.  But a Windows NT machine would be recommended, once again, for
anything larger than a small office.  Windows NT IP networking is
surprisingly good.

   Can you use a Win95 system while the system is also a server for instance
   a WebServer? Bare in mind how robust is the system from recovering from
   ill behaved applications...

Yes.  It's a fully protected-mode multitasking/threading OS.  (Take
the nit-picking somewhere else; this is an accurate summary
description of Windows 95.)

Are we done making up things to pick on Windows 95 yet?  As someone
earlier posted, Windows 95 no doubt has enough real problems of its
own.  Stop trying to contrive things to bash it with.  Speak from
knowledge, not from ignorance.

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  Michael L. VanLoon                                 michaelv@HeadCandy.com
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