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From: michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: I have one thing to say about Windows '95 & FreeBSD
Date: 08 Sep 1995 04:35:38 GMT
Organization: HeadCandy Associates... Sweets for the lobes.
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In-reply-to: "Amancio Hasty, Jr."'s message of 7 Sep 1995 22:14:56 GMT
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In article <42nqt0$rss@kadath.zeitgeist.net> "Amancio Hasty, Jr." <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> writes:
michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon) wrote:
>In article <42jot7$bfi@kadath.zeitgeist.net> "Amancio Hasty, Jr." <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> writes:
> Must say after reading your posting you make a very good
> Microsoft Salesman :)
>My point was simply to clear up misconceptions.
So do you work for Microsoft?
As a matter of fact, yes, I do. ;-) But I don't work in marketing
for them -- I write software. However, I correct misconceptions
anywhere I see them, whether they be FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux, Windows
95, Windows NT, Corvettes, Porsches, Dolby Pro-Logic surround... well,
I think you get the picture.
I work at Microsoft, using Windows 95 and Windows NT (and
occasionally a few different unix systems). I go home and hack on
NetBSD in the evenings and on weekends.
If an OS has multitasking, round-robin priority pre-empted scheduling,
interanal OS resource maanagemet, memory protection, ample hardware
support: Then why can't the OS not be a server?
Because it's not robust enough. Nobody said it *couldn't* be a
server; it can be. They're just saying it's not the best choice for a
server. As you allude to, Windows 95's memory protection isn't as
complete as NT or Unix. It only runs on FAT filesystem, which is not
well optimized for a server, unlike unix filesystems or NTFS. It
doesn't have well defined and implemented security like NT, or
Kerberos on unix. It doesn't do asynchronous I/O in the same fashion
unix or NT do.
It boils down to: Microsoft didn't write Windows 95 to be a server
operating system -- they wrote it to be a good, cheap, small client
OS. Emphasis is on snazzy graphics, sound effects, "multi-media",
coordinated "themes" for interaction, Plug-and-Play, ease of setup and
operation, etc. The emphasis in Windows 95 was not on server
performance.
1) Because Microsoft wants you to buy into NT ? (and this is no secret)
Of course they do. They're not stupid. And, they'd be right to do
so. Unfortunately, most people do not have machines heavy-duty enough
to run NT in their homes yet. So, in steps Windows 95 to fill the gap
for a few years until the hardware catches up. It runs almost all the
legacy software, and adds a lot of new, desperately needed features.
IBM wants people to run OS/2. I tell people who really like unix to
run NetBSD. Am I wrong in doing so? I have my reasons. IBM has
theirs. Microsoft has theirs. Can you find fault in Microsoft for
wanting people to run Windows NT?
2) Because Win95 may not be upto to the job or is cripple on purpose
Anybody who believes it was crippled on purpose simply has to get a
dose of reality.
Is this thread dead yet? I'd be happy to take it to email. I don't
feel it's really pertinent to this group any longer.
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