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From: ejh@larry.gsfc.nasa.gov (Edward Hartnett)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.offered,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c-cat,comp.object,comp.lang.eiffel,alt.syntax.tactical,comp.lang.misc,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Beginner to C/C++ looking for some good books
Date: 19 Sep 1995 14:41:33 GMT
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In-reply-to: loren@beauty.ucsb.edu's message of 17 Sep 1995 18:52:08 GMT
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>>>>> "L" == Loren Koss <loren@beauty.ucsb.edu> writes:
L> In <43c49e$c22@newsbf02.news.aol.com> magiconinc@aol.com (MagiconInc) writes:
>> In <439l83$dqq@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> loren@beauty.ucsb.edu (Loren Koss)
writes>
>> If this thread was originally discussing why C is better than C++ why is
>> it entitled "Beginner to C/C++ looking for some good books"?
>> I, too, am looking for such books, and I feel bound to say that I found
>> your contribution less than illuminating on this point.
L> Well, then get "C for dummies" or "C++ for dummies." If all of you out
L> there don't know how to go to your local bookstore and just sit and read
L> the computer books and figure out which one is best for you, you have no
L> right to even exist on the internet.
L> It takes brains to be a programmer and apparently none of you have any.
What a load of shit Loren!
If there is a programmer out there who does not know that the
difference between a good book and a crappy book can be the difference
between success and failure on an important project, then that
programmer needs to wake up and smell the ink!
As for myself, I bought Stroustrup's book and found it very tough
going. I'm sure that one day I'll know C++ well enough to get some
good use out of this book.
On the other end of the spectrum I got "Simple C++" by Cogswell (Waite
Group Press), and though it is *very* basic, it is also fairly short,
very easy to understand, and contains very illustrative
examples. Although it's pitched to those with little or no programmer
experience, I found it informative.
More useful was a free C++ tutorial that I got on-line. It's got 12
chapters and tons of examples. Coronodo Enterprises is the outfit that
wrote it and gives it away. Unfortunately I don't have the ftp
address, oh wait, here it is, from a FAQ posting:
9) Title: Coronado Enterprises C++ Tutorial (v2.20)
Filename: CPTUTS22.ZIP
CPTUTT22.ZIP
Author: Gordon Dodrill
E-mail: --
Phone: (505) 293-5464
URL: ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/msdos/cpluspls/cptuts22.zip
ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/msdos/cpluspls/cptutt22.zip
Just like its C counterpart, this is really one of the best and most
complete C++ tutorial out there. This tutorial is not for the person
just starting out in programming as C++ is not an ideal first language.
But if you are familiar with C or any other programming language, this
tutorial will get you started with C++. All the source discussed in
this tutorial is included and learning is really accelerated as you can
compile the code while you are reading about it. This tutorial will
assume a thorough knowledge of the C programming language and little
time will be spent on the fundamental aspects of the language. Special
attention has be devoted to explaining the newer additions as provided
by the ANSI-C standard, as many programmers are used to the old K&R
school of thought.
I've also purchased "Designing Object-Oriented C++ using the Booch
Method" by Robert Martin, which is a good book, but pretty
advanced. It's more about OO design and the Booch method than C++, but
it does have some good advanced C++ examples.
Anyway, good luck, and let me know if you find any good C++ books!
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