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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C)
Subject: Re: Motif for 386BSD
Message-ID: <1992Sep17.174014.11673@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Keywords: Motif 386BSD
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 92 17:40:14 GMT
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In article <Buq358.4up@pix.com> stripes@pix.com (Josh Osborne) writes:
>In article <1992Sep17.044553.1407@fcom.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
>[...XView...]
>>As a window manager? Yes, unless you were using an X terminal (they suck
>>at drawing ovals, which xview requires).
>
>Last I looked XView didn't draw *any* ovals, it used a font with diffrent sized
>button parts pre-drawn in it. This (1) is faster, and (2) look better then
>the X rendered ovals at small sizes.
I hate to disagree, but... the 30 or so AT&T 750CX (Actually NCR) terminals
we have here are terrible at drawing the menu buttons and buttons used by
OpenLook, and the "OpenLook" oval to me.
I don't know if your running nothing but monochrome systems where you're at,
but the "color-3D" for OpenLook on a color terminal are *not* using fonts,
which only support two different colors (FG and BG) rather than multiple
colors for "shadows" on the buttons.
If I go to the "2D look", I get better performance, but then the window
decorations look like hell compared to Motif (which is actually quite pretty,
if much slower than the "2D look" OpenLook).
Just running Sun's "filemanager" is an effort requiring patience. The
draws are simply *abominably slow*.
If it isn't really drawing ovals (I believe it is, from running a tap on
the data stream to and from the X server), then all that means is that
that's not the problem; not that there isn't a problem, or that color OpenLook
doesn't suck on an X terminal. Even if I've misidentified the problem, that
won't make OpenLook not suck on everything but a local display.
This is why all the fuss about Motif on 386BSD.
Terry Lambert
terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com
terry@icarus.weber.edu
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