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From: kientzle@netcom.com
Subject: Re: Please help with upgrade-questions to FBSD-2.1
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 02:13:55 GMT
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In article <44rvcj$8tf@molnir.brunel.ac.uk>,
Nik Clayton <Nik.Clayton@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
>I'm looking at a Zip drive for backup purposes. It's either that or
>tape, but so far I haven't seen any reports of poeple using it with no
>problems. I'd love to be see some.

  Hmmm...  I was one of the people posting problem reports, most of
which were traced down to my own misunderstandings.  Works beautifully
now.  For the record, I'm using the SCSI-interface (aka `Mac') version
with a SB16/SCSI-2 card (AIC6360 driver).

I bought it for backups, mostly because it seemed cheaper than a decent
SCSI tape drives, and I'd heard far too many caveats about floppy tape
drives to be confident.  Here are a few things I learned:

* You can re-format Mac-formatted ZIP disks to MSDOS format within
   MSDOS, but it's not completely clear how to do it.  Basically,
   you have to first partition the disk (MSDOS thinks it's a hard
   disk, apparently), then you can use the MSDOS format command to
   format it.  I opted to stick with MSDOS-formatted ZIP disks for
   my tar backups so I could be certain to be able to recover the
   data even if my FreeBSD system completely died and I had to use
   something else. (Everybody can read MSDOS formatted disks, it seems.)

* Under 2.0R, to mount a hard disk which only has a single MSDOS
   partition, you have to use partition `e', e.g.
     mount -t msdos /dev/sd0e /dos/d:

* A colon in the filename means special things to GNU tar.
   (so backing up with `tar -cvzf /dos/d:/file.tar' crashes with
   a very cryptic message.)

Once I figured that out, it's wonderful.  I can now quickly and
conveniently back up selected directories.  I've written a short
`floppy' command that lets ordinary users mount and unmount ZIP disks
to a standard directory (/dos/d:), and it's quite convenient.

Since I'm still using 2.0R which doesn't support my CD-ROM drive,
I also use the ZIP disk as a surrogate CD-ROM, copying things with MSDOS
to the ZIP drive and then reading them from FreeBSD.

And those drives are so cute!

                                - Tim Kientzle