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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!news.gmi.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!kientzle From: kientzle@netcom.com Subject: Re: Please help with upgrade-questions to FBSD-2.1 Message-ID: <kientzleDFwJJ7.KF2@netcom.com> Keywords: FreeBSD-2.1(RELEASE), upgrade-questions Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <44mlvi$1jf@news.rz.uni-passau.de> <44pomv$rta@uriah.heep.sax.de> <44rvcj$8tf@molnir.brunel.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 02:13:55 GMT Lines: 44 Sender: kientzle@netcom23.netcom.com In article <44rvcj$8tf@molnir.brunel.ac.uk>, Nik Clayton <Nik.Clayton@brunel.ac.uk> wrote: >I'm looking at a Zip drive for backup purposes. It's either that or >tape, but so far I haven't seen any reports of poeple using it with no >problems. I'd love to be see some. Hmmm... I was one of the people posting problem reports, most of which were traced down to my own misunderstandings. Works beautifully now. For the record, I'm using the SCSI-interface (aka `Mac') version with a SB16/SCSI-2 card (AIC6360 driver). I bought it for backups, mostly because it seemed cheaper than a decent SCSI tape drives, and I'd heard far too many caveats about floppy tape drives to be confident. Here are a few things I learned: * You can re-format Mac-formatted ZIP disks to MSDOS format within MSDOS, but it's not completely clear how to do it. Basically, you have to first partition the disk (MSDOS thinks it's a hard disk, apparently), then you can use the MSDOS format command to format it. I opted to stick with MSDOS-formatted ZIP disks for my tar backups so I could be certain to be able to recover the data even if my FreeBSD system completely died and I had to use something else. (Everybody can read MSDOS formatted disks, it seems.) * Under 2.0R, to mount a hard disk which only has a single MSDOS partition, you have to use partition `e', e.g. mount -t msdos /dev/sd0e /dos/d: * A colon in the filename means special things to GNU tar. (so backing up with `tar -cvzf /dos/d:/file.tar' crashes with a very cryptic message.) Once I figured that out, it's wonderful. I can now quickly and conveniently back up selected directories. I've written a short `floppy' command that lets ordinary users mount and unmount ZIP disks to a standard directory (/dos/d:), and it's quite convenient. Since I'm still using 2.0R which doesn't support my CD-ROM drive, I also use the ZIP disk as a surrogate CD-ROM, copying things with MSDOS to the ZIP drive and then reading them from FreeBSD. And those drives are so cute! - Tim Kientzle