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Xref: sserve comp.unix.sysv386:23941 comp.windows.x:45400 comp.os.linux:10483 comp.unix.bsd:5388 comp.os.mach:2178 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:21759 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:31600 Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!cs.weber.edu!terry From: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products Message-ID: <1992Sep21.043126.23502@fcom.cc.utah.edu> Keywords: Diamond, free-software Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu Organization: Weber State University (Ogden, UT) References: <1992Sep20.085358.25938@zeos.com> <1992Sep20.110805.12124@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <1992Sep20.191833.10080@zeos.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 92 04:31:26 GMT Lines: 33 In article <1992Sep20.191833.10080@zeos.com> kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann) writes: >My overall point is that something needs to be done in the way of standards >or getting hardware manufacturers to cooperate with software developers to >support Unix Graphics Based Software. The developing of a standard for these >video card manufacturers to comply with would allow a simplication for >development of video drivers for X or other Unix graphics based applications. >It would[n't] necessarily have to be VESA. It could be an Open Systems >standard. I agree with this; however, I'm a software geek, not a hardware geek. 8-}. The problem with hardware standards is that there is nothing to distinguish one vendors hardware from another other than price, quality, warranty, and support. The lack of low-level standards prevents the hardware from going commodity (like ISA 386's); this is in the hardware vendors interests, just as the lack of a true ABI is in the interests of OS vendors (otherwise you'd just buy the lowest cost one that did the job with a sufficient level of support). There is also no room for "Trade Secrets" (like Diamonds clock setting) which prevent other vendors from simply copying your hardware, leaving you to amortize the cost of developement. Terry Lambert terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com terry@icarus.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I have an 8 user poetic license" - me Get the 386bsd FAQ from agate.berkeley.edu:/pub/386BSD/386bsd-0.1/unofficial -------------------------------------------------------------------------------