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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!fizban.solace.mh.se!paladin.american.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!quanta.com!rsww From: rsww@quanta.com (Ross S. W. Walker) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: M$ trying to rule the world (was Re: FreeBSD pppd <--> Win95 Dial-up) Date: 10 Nov 1995 08:23:32 GMT Organization: Quanta Communications, Inc. Lines: 62 Message-ID: <47v264$nvd@tempis.quanta.com> References: <478tqq$k7t@agate.berkeley.edu> <47at8g$bps@helena.MT.net> <47kvih$csl@push.stack.serpukhov.su> NNTP-Posting-Host: quanta.quanta.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Gene Selkov, Jr. (selkovjr@pool.stack.serpukhov.su) wrote: : nate@trout.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) wrote: : >In article <478tqq$k7t@agate.berkeley.edu>, : >Charles Anderson <cander@cimsim.IEOR.Berkeley.EDU> wrote: : >> : >>Does anyone know what options one needs to configure in either pppd or : >>Win95 dial-up networking to get the two to talk? : > : >Welcome to 'MicroSloth', we rule the world. M$ asked to add some : >extenstions to the PPP protocol that didn't belong, so the Internet Task : >Force (I think that's who they are, someone correct me if I'm wrong) : >turned them down. Now, being the type of company they are, they of : >course agree with the ruling and decided to follow the rules. (NOT!) : > : >M$ added these extensions to all of their products, expecting the rest : >of the world to bow to their wishes via the sheer #'s of folks who would : >complain about the link not working. : > : >The bottom line is that it's a bug in M$ PPP implementation that should : >be taken up with M$. They are *intentionally* breaking the rules just : >to see if they can do it, and if we allow them to do it here it only : >gives them the nerve to do it again. : > : >However, this doesn't help you with your Win95 box. For that I have no : >solution except to give M$ tech-support a ring and make sure they don't : >blame the problem on FreeBSD. We are *following* spec., and they : >aren't. For more details on the problem checkout the BSDi mailing lists : >archives, where it is discussed in greater detail. : > : The solution is to disable MS proprietary data compression protocol : over PPP. I tried it with Win95 June test release and it worked fine, : except its average performance was more than two times weaker than : between Win95 and NT Server. I am almost sure MS did not change a bit : in the basic PPP implementation and I find data compression a great : feature. You are not supposed to transfer zipped files all the time, : are you? : Gene You know that's funny I have my Win95 PPP connecting fine with my Annex box using compression (Pred-1) and with my FreeBSD box. I don't know what the problem is with that, but I found that the "extensions" to M$ PPP is for DHCP discovery. If the freebsd or any other ppp for that matter refuses to do address negotiation then it fails due to this extension. If it negotiates an address then this is fine. You can negotiate an address to be what you tell it, or refuse connection. It is when the server says forget it bud I don't negotiate nothing, you run into this problem. Make sure the -ip switch isn't given to pppd. Cheers, Ross Walker -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | /\/ | Ross S. W. Walker (rsww@quanta.com) | \/\ | | | |\ | finger rsww@quanta.com for PGP key _____________________________ | |___|/ | | Quanta Communications, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------