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From: chuck@ccrc.wustl.edu (Chuck Cranor)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: NetBSD camp reaction to OpenBSD?
Date: 26 Nov 1995 17:51:32 -0600
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO.
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Message-ID: <49aui4$8in@dworkin.wustl.edu>
References: <30B6A790.41C67EA6@FreeBSD.org> <30b755fe.0@xyzzy.cs.colorado.edu> <498sl3$52h@ector.cs.purdue.edu>
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In article <498sl3$52h@ector.cs.purdue.edu>,
David Moffett <dpm@cs.purdue.edu> wrote:
>Would it be opening Pandoras Box for us non-list readers to get a one
>screen summary of what caused this split? Was it a people vs people or
>technical ideas vs technical ideas kind of problem?
~one screen summary:
- a bit more than a year ago NetBSD/core decided that Theo de Raadt should
be removed from Core based on Theo's behavior ("rude and abusive"), and
also on flames/email that Theo sent privately to a person working on NetBSD.
[that person forwarded (without permission) Theo's flames back to Core,
and to Theo's boss at the time]
- Core waited one night until Theo went to sleep and then disabled his account
on all the main NetBSD machines. This had the effect of removing him from
Core and removing his CVS access (out of fear of revenge). They then
sent him an email after the fact telling him that he had to resign.
- Theo, rather upset, dropped off the net for a while.
- Theo later changed jobs, and resurfaced. He started working on NetBSD/sparc
again. He contacted Core and requested that his CVS access be restored. At
first he released some of his changes to NetBSD, but later decided to hold
on to his changes to the source code until the issue of his CVS access was
resolved. [this didn't sit well with a lot of users]
- Core indicated to Theo that they were willing to negotiate on CVS access,
and Theo stated that he would agree to what ever it was that other users
with CVS access were agreeing to at the time.
- Core decided to formulate a "CVS access" document that everyone with CVS
access would have to agree to. Theo was told to wait for this document.
- Theo waited about 5 months for this document to be produced by Core.
Core was unable to produce the document and kept telling Theo to wait.
- Theo, feeling ignored, got tired of waiting and released his copy of his
email dialogue with Core (to show people that he had been waiting and
trying) and then decided to start OpenBSD.
that's the story in a screen or so.
chuck
--
Chuck Cranor, Graduate Student
Computer and Communications Research Center
Washington University, St. Louis MO USA
E-Mail: chuck@maria.wustl.edu / cranor@udel.edu