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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!hamblin.math.byu.edu!park.uvsc.edu!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD Date: 30 Nov 1995 23:38:27 GMT Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah Lines: 90 Message-ID: <49lf9j$it5@park.uvsc.edu> References: <489kuu$rbo@pelican.cs.ucla.edu> <48ajue$3h6@muirwood.convex.com> <poulosioDI20sJ.5vz@netcom.com> <48buod$cue@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> <poulosioDIFAnC.ECw@netcom.com> <4972bn$psq@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <49ijf9$9rc@tombstone.kent.edu> <30BD2617.23585C28@mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.advocacy:28635 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:9526 comp.unix.advocacy:11512 comp.unix.misc:19712 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:8897 Craig Bergren <cbergren@mcs.net> wrote: ] Is there any way to bring this discussion back to a comparison of the ] differences between Linux and FreeBSD that might make one choose one ] over the other? Are you "into" kernel architecture, writing device drivers, etc.? Are you stressing the hardware to it's boundries (ie: you are a large ISP, WWW, or FTP site? If the answer to both of these questions is "no", then all the differences are effectively environmental and thus cosmetic in nature -- and subject only to presentation of opinion. Neither system is POSIX compliant, not having had NIST/PCTS run by a certified testing laboratory and paid the certification fee; even if they were, that would only apply to a particular release. Add any "new stuff" and the certification is gone. Neither system is certified to an orange book C or B security level; no one has paid for the audit, and any such audit would require picking particular hardware to run the audit on. Linux has more commercial software. FreeBSD can run Linux binaries. Both can run IBCS2 binaries, but both require you to have a licensed SCO or SVR3 system to do installs of any commercial IBCS2 products, so it's mostly a "geek toy". > I decided to run Linux for these reasons; none are very technical. It > all boils down to a support issue for me: [ ... reasons elided ... ] It all boils down to emotional arguments, you mean. Unless you have a considered opinion on the architectural differences, you are really blowing smoke. Which one is "easier to install" depends on who you have to help you and what your computing background is. Which one is "better supported" depends on what your buddies run and your degree of net connectivity re: email vs. netnews. Which one is better documented depends on whether you think a book has to describe the commands and tools, or be a bit of fluff with the name of the OS on the cover somewhere. Supported hardware varies. If you buy high end hardware like the people coding both systems, you will never have a problem. If you buy fringe hardware, then you will. Neither has a good, reliable, up to date "hardware compatability list" that you can trust enough to plug a system together from it and have it work. Suprise! Neither does SCO or UnixWare. It's silly trying to compare covers on books and ask "which book is best", when both books take an equal amount of shelf space and have an equal number of pages (footprint & capabilities), both books have the same color cover (nominally POSIX interface), etc.. If you actually *read* the books and discover one is on cooking and one is on gardening, *then* you have a basis to make a judgement. And even then, it's opinion, since you may be a gardener, while I may be a cook. Before you ask, yes, I've seen the internals of both, and yes, I have opinions that would be outdated a week after I posted them because the camps would immediately work to remove any negative comparisons to render the opinions presented invalid, or reverse them. Then I'd get flamed for being "wrong". 8-). If you want an honest comparison, and someone is foolish enough to open themselves to attack a week after they post when the comparisons are no longer valid, don't expect the comparison to remain accurate long enough for you to install one or the other and allow you to claim you made "the best choice". Regards, Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.