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From: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD
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Date: 01 Dec 1995 09:38:51 GMT
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In article <49ksgl$2pit@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> fjw2@Lehigh.EDU (FRANK JUDE WOJCIK) writes:

I have no desire to get into a Linux vs FreeBSD war (gawd haven't we had
enough), but just to clarify a few misconceptions of this poster's:

   tried installing it but couldn't get past the bootdisk. It is my belief (and 
   someone please correct me if I'm wrong) that FreeBSD is the whole distribution.
   (as opposed to Linux, which is just the kernel).

I don't think it's reasonable to call "linux" (by popular definition)
just a kernel.  When people say "I'm running Linux" they're generally
not saying "I'm magically running a kernel without any user utilities
or a shell!" :-) So I think if you say "linux" to Linus Torvalds then
yes, it's just a kernel, but that's about the only circumstance in
which it would be.  Otherwise it would appear that you're talking
about Slackware or Red Hat Linux when you talk about "Linux."

   In my mind it's a plus to be able to upgrade any individual part of my
   installation w/o affecting anything else.

Assuming that you could do this on a practical basis from day to day
then yes, it would be a plus.. :-)

   : 2) At the time of Linux 1.0.9, console hangs were prevelant, causing
   :    grief for users.  The only solution was to upgrade, but there was
   :    only so far we could upgrade w/o installing a totally new Slackware and
   :    going through the same grief (ELF).
   Hm. It's my recollection that you could upgrade pretty far (kernel wise) w/o
   any of the utilities breaking.

Read what he's saying again - he'd have had to go to ELF, hardly a
"without any of the utilities breaking" scenario..

   : 3) Linux NFS performance sucked.  The only way to fix this was to go to
   :    a 1.3.X kernel (apparently), and we were not interested in screwing
   :    around with alpha kernels or upgrading daily.
   So don't. Pick a kernel you like and go with it.  There's no need to
   always get the latest kernel. You can ask on newsgroups for people's 
   reccomendations/experiences with various kernel releases...

Again, read what he's saying.  He said he had performance problems
which mandated an upgrade, yet such an upgrade would have landed him
in ALPHA territory.  He was in a no-win situation.

   The HOWTO's have been of tremendous help to me and my friends. Does FreeBSD
   have something similar? I can't think of any that are particularly out
   of date.

We're trying to consolidate all of that together into a Handbook.  See
http://www.freebsd.org for the latest efforts.

						Jordan
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						Jordan