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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!news.dacom.co.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!agate!reason.cdrom.com!news.cdrom.com!jkh From: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc Date: 01 Dec 1995 09:38:51 GMT Organization: Walnut Creek CDROM Lines: 55 Message-ID: <JKH.95Dec1013851@time.cdrom.com> References: <489kuu$rbo@pelican.cs.ucla.edu> <4972bn$psq@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <49ijf9$9rc@tombstone.kent.edu> <30BD2617.23585C28@mcs.net> <49k0dd$pfg@nntp5.u.washington.edu> <49ksgl$2pit@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: time.cdrom.com In-reply-to: fjw2@Lehigh.EDU's message of 30 Nov 1995 13:17:57 -0500 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.advocacy:28652 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:9548 comp.unix.advocacy:11520 comp.unix.misc:19715 In article <49ksgl$2pit@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> fjw2@Lehigh.EDU (FRANK JUDE WOJCIK) writes: I have no desire to get into a Linux vs FreeBSD war (gawd haven't we had enough), but just to clarify a few misconceptions of this poster's: tried installing it but couldn't get past the bootdisk. It is my belief (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) that FreeBSD is the whole distribution. (as opposed to Linux, which is just the kernel). I don't think it's reasonable to call "linux" (by popular definition) just a kernel. When people say "I'm running Linux" they're generally not saying "I'm magically running a kernel without any user utilities or a shell!" :-) So I think if you say "linux" to Linus Torvalds then yes, it's just a kernel, but that's about the only circumstance in which it would be. Otherwise it would appear that you're talking about Slackware or Red Hat Linux when you talk about "Linux." In my mind it's a plus to be able to upgrade any individual part of my installation w/o affecting anything else. Assuming that you could do this on a practical basis from day to day then yes, it would be a plus.. :-) : 2) At the time of Linux 1.0.9, console hangs were prevelant, causing : grief for users. The only solution was to upgrade, but there was : only so far we could upgrade w/o installing a totally new Slackware and : going through the same grief (ELF). Hm. It's my recollection that you could upgrade pretty far (kernel wise) w/o any of the utilities breaking. Read what he's saying again - he'd have had to go to ELF, hardly a "without any of the utilities breaking" scenario.. : 3) Linux NFS performance sucked. The only way to fix this was to go to : a 1.3.X kernel (apparently), and we were not interested in screwing : around with alpha kernels or upgrading daily. So don't. Pick a kernel you like and go with it. There's no need to always get the latest kernel. You can ask on newsgroups for people's reccomendations/experiences with various kernel releases... Again, read what he's saying. He said he had performance problems which mandated an upgrade, yet such an upgrade would have landed him in ALPHA territory. He was in a no-win situation. The HOWTO's have been of tremendous help to me and my friends. Does FreeBSD have something similar? I can't think of any that are particularly out of date. We're trying to consolidate all of that together into a Handbook. See http://www.freebsd.org for the latest efforts. Jordan -- Jordan