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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.seanet.com!news.seanet.com!michaelv From: michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD Date: 07 Dec 1995 05:58:23 GMT Organization: HeadCandy Associates... Sweets for the lobes. Lines: 46 Message-ID: <MICHAELV.95Dec6215823@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> References: <489kuu$rbo@pelican.cs.ucla.edu> <87rayn8ion.fsf@interbev.mindspring.com> <49qa85$q80@agate.berkeley.edu> <MICHAELV.95Dec2230815@mindbender.headcandy.com> <49sql5$99f@pell.pell.chi.il.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: mindbender.seanet.com In-reply-to: orc@pell.chi.il.us's message of 3 Dec 1995 10:35:17 -0800 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.advocacy:29387 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:9880 comp.unix.advocacy:11786 comp.unix.misc:19871 In article <49sql5$99f@pell.pell.chi.il.us> orc@pell.chi.il.us (Orc) writes: In article <MICHAELV.95Dec2230815@mindbender.headcandy.com>, Michael L. VanLoon <michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> wrote: >But once again, the fact is raised that at least the *BSD groups keep >the entire source tree in a well-managed CVS enlistment system. Is >there any of the native Linux system in such well-managed state? >Could you retrieve a specific kernel file from a specific date for me? >Any commercial company who developed software like that would quickly >go out of business, after their software got buggier and harder to >maintain, and users quit buying the stuff. I don't know how Linus does internal version control, but there are plenty of companies that don't use version control (or have got Company Standards(tm) like DEC's CMS, which is worthless) that are not known for 'buggier and harder to maintain' software. SCCS is an unqualified Good Thing(tm), but, regretfully, it's not necessary to use it to produce good reliable code. No, of course not. Not initially, anyway. However, it's indispensable for QFE (Quick-Fix Engineering [i. e. bug fixes to post-released code]). It's also indispensable for large development teams. My point is not that you can't write software without good version control. But that you can't efficiently maintain it for an extended period of time. And that effects one or more of quality/bugginess, date slippage, and/or number of features developable per release cycle. Sure, you could do anything without version control. But if it's big enough, and all other things are equal, a competitor with tight version control policies is going to end up doing more, better, in the long run. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, HP300, Sun3, Sun4, DEC PMAX (MIPS), DEC Alpha, PC532 NetBSD ports in progress: VAX, Atari 68k, others... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -