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From: fjw2@Lehigh.EDU (FRANK JUDE WOJCIK)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD
Date: 2 Dec 1995 11:22:34 -0500
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Jordan K. Hubbard (jkh@time.cdrom.com) wrote:
: In article <49ksgl$2pit@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> fjw2@Lehigh.EDU (FRANK JUDE WOJCIK) writes:
::tried installing it but couldn't get past the bootdisk. It is my belief (and
::someone please correct me if I'm wrong) that FreeBSD is the whole distribution.
::(as opposed to Linux, which is just the kernel).
: I don't think it's reasonable to call "linux" (by popular definition)
: just a kernel.
Well, I was speaking in a kind of pedantic sense. Linux proper *is* just the
kernel.
: When people say "I'm running Linux" they're generally
: not saying "I'm magically running a kernel without any user utilities
: or a shell!" :-)
True. They're usually referring to some distribution of Linux. This, however,
isn't what I was talking about.... 8-)
::In my mind it's a plus to be able to upgrade any individual part of my
::installation w/o affecting anything else.
: Assuming that you could do this on a practical basis from day to day
: then yes, it would be a plus.. :-)
Um, I don't get this. I *do* do this.
::: 2) At the time of Linux 1.0.9, console hangs were prevelant, causing
::: grief for users. The only solution was to upgrade, but there was
::: only so far we could upgrade w/o installing a totally new Slackware and
::: going through the same grief (ELF).
:: Hm. It's my recollection that you could upgrade pretty far (kernel wise) w/o
:: any of the utilities breaking.
: Read what he's saying again - he'd have had to go to ELF, hardly a
: "without any of the utilities breaking" scenario..
Well, there are(were) 4 different 2.x versions of Slackware. None of which is
ELF and none of which is stuck to 1.0.9.
::: 3) Linux NFS performance sucked. The only way to fix this was to go to
::: a 1.3.X kernel (apparently), and we were not interested in screwing
::: around with alpha kernels or upgrading daily.
::So don't. Pick a kernel you like and go with it. There's no need to
::always get the latest kernel. You can ask on newsgroups for people's
::reccomendations/experiences with various kernel releases...
:Again, read what he's saying. He said he had performance problems
:which mandated an upgrade, yet such an upgrade would have landed him
:in ALPHA territory. He was in a no-win situation.
Well, here I was responding to the "upgrading daily" part. And I don't think
that 1.3.x kernels are alpha. Beta/development sure, but not alpha.
But if he only wanted "production" code and wasn't happy with 1.2.x then
I wouldn't try to get him to run Linux.
: --
: Jordan
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