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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!warwick!yama.mcc.ac.uk!cs.man.ac.uk!fellowsd From: fellowsd@cs.man.ac.uk (Donal K. Fellows) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: GPL (was Re: Linux vs FreeBSD) Date: 15 Dec 1995 13:27:23 GMT Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K. Lines: 49 Distribution: comp Message-ID: <4art3r$2ap@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> References: <489kuu$rbo@pelican.cs.ucla.edu> <4ahtib$ckq@helena.mt.net> <4alpl5$a39@klaava.helsinki.fi> <4an3hq$r6l@helena.mt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: r8h.cs.man.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-User: 8028 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.advocacy:30356 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:10471 In article <4an3hq$r6l@helena.mt.net>, Nate Williams <nate@sneezy.sri.com> wrote: > In article <4alpl5$a39@klaava.helsinki.fi>, > Linus Torvalds <torvalds@cc.Helsinki.FI> wrote: >> Now, nobody in his right mind uses floppies for software distribution >> any more, so I don't really see the reason for whining about the size of >> sources. You can easily fit sources on a CD (or two - CD costs can't be >> high if people actually make money off selling 4-CD distributions for >> $25 USD). And that releases you of all future obligations.. > > *IF* you're a CD rom manufacturer and/or a software house that sells > thousands of copies of software I'd agree with you, but if you're a > small software house you'd be lucky to sell 1000 copies. Doing > one-off's require that buy a *LOT* of hardware ($$), or, you could > have a CD house build you (minimum of 1000 copies) a CD and sell > that to your customer. Either way you've got to recover those costs > somehow, and those costs are significant. But the GPL _does_ allow you to recover those costs. It merely forbids you to deny access to the sources, and it allows someone else with the sources to distribute them on to a third party (which tends to cut the quantity of profit you can make out of providing the sources :^) Thus, you could charge someone for getting one of these fancy writable CDROM drives, and this is a justifiable charge if there are no other suitable methods of giving them the sources. > When the distribution costs of your software start to eat into your > bottom line it *is* an issue, so your software costs more to sell > which makes it less appealing to the end-user. In the long run, if > I re-write the software from scratch I save alot of money in > distribution costs in the long run. > > (That, or I use non-GPL software that I can use w/out the > 'encumberance' of software distribution, such as BSD copyrighted > software. *grin*) It seems to me (on an admittedly quick reading) that you have misunderstood parts of the GPL (like many other people :^) Donal. -- Donal K. Fellows, (at work) | Donal K. Fellows, (at home) Dept. of Computer Science, | 6, Randall Place, Heaton, University of Manchester | Bradford, BD9 4AE U.K. Tel: ++44-161-275-6137 | U.K. Tel: ++44-1274-401017 fellowsd@cs.man.ac.uk (preferred) | donal@ugglan.demon.co.uk (if you must) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <http://r8h.cs.man.ac.uk:8000/> for my home page