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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!siemens!princeton!cnn.Princeton.EDU!franck!tim From: tim@franck.Princeton.EDU (Tim Hollebeek) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: a monthly FreeBSD magazine (and other *BSD's too) Date: 15 Dec 1995 14:58:15 GMT Organization: Princeton University Lines: 39 Message-ID: <4as2e7$91r@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <4ajc07$sb7@unix2.glink.net.hk> <4alnqo$1hi@clarknet.clark.net> <4am5uq$r24@agate.berkeley.edu> <4arhgi$f0c@felix.junction.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: franck.princeton.edu Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.admin:36023 alt.os.linux:6407 alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions:5109 comp.os.linux.advocacy:30376 comp.os.linux.misc:75714 comp.os.linux.setup:32405 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:10487 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1549 In article <4arhgi$f0c@felix.junction.net>, Michael Dillon <michael@okjunc.junction.net> wrote: >In article <4am5uq$r24@agate.berkeley.edu>, >Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@violet.berkeley.edu> wrote: >>In article <4alnqo$1hi@clarknet.clark.net>, >>David Clausen <clau@clark.net> wrote: >>>I had to make this decision about 2 months ago when it came time for me >>>to build an Internet firewalling gateway. I was won over by Linux >>>because of the fact that it supports kernel-level packet filtering; >>>which is analogous to what firewalling (packet-filtering) routers do >>>(but they cost lots of $$$$)! >> >>Then you made your decision on wholly erroneous grounds, I'm afraid. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Not true. >There are no books on FreeBSD which tell people that IP >firewalling exists and how to use it, therefore it does NOT exist. An interesting definition of the term exist ... there are also no books on Java, for example. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. >>FreeBSD also supports kernel packet filtering and accounting. We've >>implemented several firewalls with it, including the one here. Type >>`man ipfw' on any post-2.0 FreeBSD machine. > >Irrelevant. man pages are for gurus, not people who are trying to decide >which OS will serve their needs. Anyone who can't read and digest man pages certainly shouldn't be setting up a UNIX box. Seriously, they aren't _that_ cryptic. If you're arguing that Linux is better marketted, you are right. But don't confuse marketting hype with reality. -- Tim Hollebeek | Everything above is a true statement, for sufficiently PChem Grad Student | false values of true. Princeton Univ. | tim@wfn-shop.princeton.edu -------------------| http://wfn-shop.princeton.edu/~tim