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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!spcuna!ritz!ritz From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Chris Mauritz) Subject: Re: why buy BSDI ? References: <4aj80t$gus@news.voicenet.com> <4arkvc$rmn@sanson.dit.upm.es> <30D22BA2.4954E1CF@execu.comshare.com> Organization: Mordor International Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 05:33:08 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Message-ID: <DJror9.3q5@ritz.mordor.com> Lines: 56 Patrick S. Roberts (NTT) (root@execu.comshare.com) wrote: : Pedro J. Lobo Perea wrote: : > : > 900RR (900RR) wrote: : > : > : i can't figure out what the deal is with BSDI. : > : > : if FreeBSD didn't exist, then maybe it would be worth a look. : > : but their byzantine licensing structure ($900 = 10 connected users) : > : is a farce if you ask me. i must be missing the point. : > : > : what does BSDI offer me that i can't/don't get with FreeBSD (or even : > : Linux for that matter). For a couple of grand, i could buy and set up : > : an ass-kicking BSDI P133 super system. for the same sum, BSDI sends : > : me (FedEx, thank you) a CDROM, and a tech-support number.... :\ : > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : > There you go. You don't pay only for the OS, but also for the : > support. You can get FreeBSD for free, but the only "support" you : > get is the ability to ask in the newsgroups or in the mailing : > lists, provided that you have a network connection (although they : > are usually very useful :-). If something goes wrong, and nobody : > can (or wants, which isn't usually the case) help you, you can't : > do anything. : > : > : please clue me in. : > : > : CB : Also a great deal of Companys will not go for an *unsupported* software : like freebsd, whereas they will gladly believe a product which they pay : out the as$ for is godly, example :windows. Not that BSDI is bad, I have : a primo BSDI Internet Server here that supports over 1000 users on the : net. The only real reason I haven't switched my BSDI 1.0 box over to FreeBSD 2.1 is because I've been unable to get a popserver working correctly. Qpopper compiles, but won't correctly validate user passwords on FreeBSD 2.1. (I got qpopper from the ports section of ftp.freebsd.org). It seems to have problems with the shadow passwords (as near as I can tell). The system in question is an ISP machine with roughly 500-600 regular users, many of whom rely on our popmail server. I could use my grandfather status and get BSDI 2.0.1, but I'm getting fond of having the operating system source. :) sigh... Regards, Chris -- Christopher Mauritz | For info on internet access: ritz@mordor.com | finger/mail info@ritz.mordor.com OR Mordor International | http://www.mordor.com/ 201/212/718 internet access | Modem: (201)433-7343,(212)843-3451