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From: michael@okjunc.junction.net (Michael Dillon)
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Subject: Re: a monthly FreeBSD magazine (and other *BSD's too)
Date: 18 Dec 1995 06:52:38 GMT
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In article <4as4vb$pos@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@violet.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>In article <4arhgi$f0c@felix.junction.net>,
>Michael Dillon <michael@okjunc.junction.net> wrote:
>
>>Not true.
>>There are no books on FreeBSD which tell people that IP 
>>firewalling exists and how to use it, therefore it does NOT exist.
>
>This is a ridiculous assertion.  It's even documented in the handbook,
>and that's been freely available on http://www.freebsd.org for some
>time.  

That's not a bookstore so it doesn't count.

>No, there's no book, but somehow a number of people have still
>managed to figure this out.  How 'bout that?  I guess the declining
>educational standards of your generation haven't entirely ruined

And which generation is that? ;-)

>everyone's abiltity to do the simplest types of research (the reference
>to that URL, BTW, is only scattered through about 10 different prominent
>locations of the online and installation doc).

Which bookstore has this installation doc? Who is the publisher?

>You're also assuming that the Linux guy had somehow read about the Linux
>firewall features (which were ported from FreeBSD, BTW) in a book.
>Just how the hell do you know that?  If he read about it on the net, does
>that mean that Linux's firewalling features don't exist?

Yep. ;-) BTW, lets not mix specific cases with the general case.

>Frankly, Michael, I wish you'd either write the book yourself or simply shut
>your trap.  I read your flame to the other guy about how you'd do it yourself
>if only you weren't so gosh-darned busy,

> didn't have inflamed corns, needed

no corns at all. That's 'cause I go barefoot in the summertime. I can 
even run barefoot on gravel roads ;-)

>to take the dog to the vet, etc etc

No dog, sorry... just four wild cats this year. All female so you KNOW 
how many wild cats will be around here next year.

>as have your tirades on the topic.  It's time for you to put up or shut up,

I may well do that. But if someone else wants to go for the glory of 
being a published writer, I'd like to give them half a chance.

>>I don't want to see FreeBSD take a backseat to Linux. That would be bad 
>>for FreeBSD, bad for Linux and bad for free software in general. The 
>
>Michael, I've always been the first to say that a book would be a very
>fine thing to have, but please do us all a favor - stay OFF our side!
>You only discredit those who actually have something meaningful to say.

tsk, tsk, Jordan, how can you judge my book when I haven't even written 
it yet? That would be like judging FreeBSD by the books available in 
Barnes & Noble...

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