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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!chi-news.cic.net!news.uoregon.edu!kaiwan.kaiwan.com!pell.pell.chi.il.us!pell.pell.chi.il.us!there.is.no.cabal From: orc@pell.chi.il.us (Orc) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD Date: 13 Dec 1995 13:05:17 -0800 Organization: White Picket Fences Lines: 44 Message-ID: <4anf6d$8d@pell.pell.chi.il.us> References: <489kuu$rbo@pelican.cs.ucla.edu> <49k0dd$pfg@nntp5.u.washington.edu> <49p9nr$1pj@pell.pell.chi.il.us> <MICHAELV.95Dec3151810@mindbender.headcandy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pell.pell.chi.il.us Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.advocacy:30643 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:10670 In article <MICHAELV.95Dec3151810@mindbender.headcandy.com>, Michael L. VanLoon <michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> wrote: >In article <49p9nr$1pj@pell.pell.chi.il.us> orc@pell.chi.il.us (Orc) writes: > > In article <49k0dd$pfg@nntp5.u.washington.edu>, > Clint Olsen <olsenc@kodiak.ee.washington.edu> wrote: > >In article <30BD2617.23585C28@mcs.net>, > >Craig Bergren <cbergren@mcs.net> wrote: > > >Good point. I went out and asked amongst the mailing lists and > >newsgroups to find this info out. Generally, most decent hardware is > >supported by both FreeBSD and Linux. Linux may support a lot of funky > >hardware, but I would probably not be interested in running an OS on it. > >At some point, you have to decide whether or not you want to make an OS > >run on your hardware or select hardware to run an OS :) > > You're part of a minority. A lot of people just want a good > operating system to play with, but already have a machine to put it > on; spending the money to upgrade the machine to a configuration > suitable to Linux or xBSD may be enough to make the user throw in > the towel and stick with Windows or OS/2, which are both capable > of running on quite a bit of the funky hardware out there. > >I have two things to say: Windows 95; Windows NT. And your point is? The funky hardware is out there, and it's still being developed. The vast majority doesn't really care about the standards, as long as it will run on their machines, and the vendors making that hardware will happily build drivers so that their hardware will be purchased by more people. Unfortunately for Linux and *BSD, most of those vendors don't think that either of these systems have enough userbase, leaving production of the drivers up to the user community. If your user community wants to Adhere To Standards(tm), that's wonderful and it will make your development work easier. It will also ensure that your userbase remains small, as well as put the system into the 'kooky toy' box that was, until fairly recently, honorably filled by Amigados and TOS. ____ david parsons \bi/ And if the userbase is big enough, applications \/ programmers can stay fed working on the system.