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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux:11188 comp.unix.bsd:5778 Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usc!usc!not-for-mail From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd Subject: You can't escape the real world (Was Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?) Date: 28 Sep 1992 18:54:31 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 43 Message-ID: <1a8d0nINNmlr@almaak.usc.edu> References: <bibhas.717685421@femto.engr.mun.ca> <3725@eastman.UUCP> <KETIL.92Sep28210509@spurv.ii.uib.no> <1992Sep28.233905.23634@cs.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes: >I thought comp.os.linux is the best place for friendly people to talk >about what they get in playing/working with Linux. >commercial Unixes. You can't push Linux to the mainstream world without >money. I'd rather stay in such kind of underground subculture in >the seemingly uglier computer society. Working in a small underground where you don't have to deal with nasty issues is a nice ideal. In the computer industry it is not really a practical option. Witness the Moto 68k for example. If you loved the 68020 architecture, you would be incredibly pissed off at it's demise (at the hands of Intel and RISC). In this business, if you care for a product idea you can't leave it to the free market. By itself, the free market will produce obscenities like Microsoft. Specifically, the Unix bandwagon in general (Linux in particular) is living off the common skills of thousands of good software guys worldwide, the existence of good books, the free software, phenomena like Cygnus Support and Lucid Emacs, etc. To the extent that like Unix is able to encroach on DOS/Windows/OS2, these infrastructural inputs will get better. For every ten engineers writing commercial Unix software one will write some free software in his spare time. University kids are likely to be more willing to learn Unix skills if they think there is a good market for Unix programmers in the real world. While at school they are likely to produce good free software. In sum: If Unix is able to do well in the OS wars then the world of free software will greatly benefit. And conversely. Insane as it may sound, Microsoft would like to have us believe that Windows NT is going to be the single dominant OS over a hundred different forms of hardware, just the way Unix has been for the last decade. Are you going to enjoy seeing such a world come about? I doubt it. If not, do something about it. Convince one peasant each day about your world view. -ans. -- Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu