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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!sun4nl!fwi.uva.nl!not-for-mail From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.advocacy Subject: Re: BSDI Vs. NT... NT looses big Date: 22 Dec 1995 10:44:25 +0100 Organization: Sun Microsystems, Netherlands Lines: 67 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4bdulp$4r8@mail.fwi.uva.nl> References: <taxfree.3.00C439A1@primenet.com> <4bdd76$a04@news.voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.fwi.uva.nl Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:1799 comp.unix.advocacy:12576 Lion King (Lion King) writes: >taxfree@primenet.com (Marshall Field) wrote: >>- The MS-TCP/IP stack, still fairly new, evidently has a memory leak that >>may necessitate REBOOTING your server regularly. >you could also get the fix for it, doncha think? If there is one? >If you even know about it, chances are it was fixed days/weeks ago. Why? People discover new problems every day in software. Finding a bug doesn't automagically fix it. >A memory leak is not much of a problem, once you know it's there. Most people will disagree tehre. >NT sets up in 90-100 Megs. Unix EASILY needs 5 times that amount for a >similar install. To make it fair, install Visual C++ in another >150Megs. That's 250 Megs, tops. Still 1/2 of the same Unix install. I think you overestimate the size of Unix. (ANd in 500Meg I have many more tools than in your 100Megs) >Till unix and unix products are multi-threaded, NT will continue to >smoke them. Why is it that NT advocates always compare todays (or usually tomorrows :-) MS Windows /Windows NT features with Unix as it was more than ten years ago? Modern Unices are multithreaded Modern HTTP servers on UNIX are multithreaded. >BTW, those extra processors on the mainboard can actually be USED to >run code on. One day, you guys will figure that out. You don't have to >ignore them forever! :D Again, comparing old Unix against current NT. Modern Unix does use all the processors and until I see convicing benchmarks that prove otherwise, I'll believe the storires that say NT won't scale well beyond two processors. >Hardware speed can be bought with 50% more power costing 50% less >every year (or something like that). Certain versions of Unix run on the same hardware that NT runs on, and even the proprietary Unix hardware can be gotten for les with more speed every year. >woohoo! NT Rocks. You forgot the word "sucks" in your last sentence. Casper -- Casper Dik - Network Security Engineer - Sun Microsystems This article is posted from my guest account at the University of Amsterdam. My real-life e-mail address is: Casper.Dik@Holland.Sun.COM Opinions expressed here are mine (but you're welcome to share them with me)