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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!medtronic.com!rosevax!reddwarf!grante From: grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) Subject: Re: Coherent answer to questions about Linux vs. FreeBSD X-Nntp-Posting-Host: reddwarf Message-ID: <1995Dec30.201950.15037@rosevax.rosemount.com> Followup-To: comp.unix.admin,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Sender: news@rosevax.rosemount.com (Rosevax USENET News auto-admin account) Organization: Fisher-Rosemount, Rosemount Inc. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <30D2FB7F.52C1@ix.netcom.com> <4b089j$usb@twin.wasatch.com> <1995Dec19.232510.8284@rosevax.rosemount.com> <stephenkDKA7o2.Csr@netcom.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:19:50 GMT Lines: 53 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.admin:36537 alt.os.linux:6804 alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions:5403 comp.os.linux.advocacy:31840 comp.os.linux.misc:77903 comp.os.linux.setup:34113 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:11352 Stephen Knilans (stephenk@netcom.com) wrote: : grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes: : >: Too bad about MWC. I had heard that Coherent was a decent product, : >: and the price was certainly right. : > : >It is a bit sad. It was a good product, with excellent documentation. I : >suspect that Net/FreeBSD and Linux were the proximate cause of death -- MWC : >just couldn't keep up. So far, the only casualty in the war against : >Microsoft's hegemony seems to be the death of one of the good guys as a : >result of friendly fire. : The first version of coherent was VERY IN-coherent. It was 100% FALSE : ADVERTISING! MANY were angry. What first version? If you mean 1.0, then that was way before my time and you could be correct. I started with 3.x on a 286 about five or six years ago. I was quite impressed with it -- I wrote a pty device driver for the 286 version and ported screen (as well as RCS). Later I did a little worked on the MGR port (hercules stuff) to 4.0. I thought Coherent was a damn fine product, and I'm proud that I was able to contribute a little. : The 386 version was a LOT better, but STILL didn't live up to promises. Yes, the TCP/IP and X11 stuff was behind schedule, as I recall. I don't remember if demand-paged virtual memory ever shipped either. : Their tech support STUNK, I always had great results with tech support. They even overnighted me a beta copy of their bourne shell so I could test the fixes to some of the bugs I reported. As far as I recall, all of the bugs I reported got fixed, and they were quite nice about it. : and they try to break into your system if you give them a chance. Huh? I'd like to hear about that. I had uucp (dial-in and out) going, but nobody ever tried to break in... : Linux is MUCH better! LESS buggy, CHEAPER, more capable/compatible! I agree that Linux quickly overtook Coherent (that's why I switched). MWC just couldn't keep up with the *BSD or Linux development efforts, but MWC was out there for 10+ years selling a good, inexpensive, _extreemly_ well documented Unix clone, and I'm sorry to see they've gone out of business while Microsoft has prospered. -- Grant Edwards | Microsoft isn't the | Yow! Look! A ladder! Maybe Rosemount Inc. | answer. Microsoft | it leads to heaven, or a | is the question, and | sandwich! grante@rosemount.com | the answer is no. |