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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!panix!rek.tjls.com!rek.tjls.com!not-for-mail From: tls@rek.tjls.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: a monthly FreeBSD magazine (and other *BSD's too) Date: 4 Jan 1996 02:57:37 -0500 Organization: Never! Lines: 37 Message-ID: <4cg19h$2d6@fearsome.tjls.com> References: <4ajc07$sb7@unix2.glink.net.hk> <4ca3gu$4nc@news1.halcyon.com> <4cdijr$hjg@toplink1.toplink.net> <4cfq48$9lg@news1.halcyon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fearsome.tjls.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.advocacy:31823 alt.os.linux:6798 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:11334 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1706 In article <4cfq48$9lg@news1.halcyon.com>, Tim Smith <tzs@coho.halcyon.com> wrote: >Christian Kratzer <ck@news.toplink.de> wrote: >>I think a very large portion of the FreeBSD and NetBSD user community would >>considre an IDE CDROM (and also other ide devices) a "wierd device" they would >>not touch with 5 foot isolated pole ;-> >> >>This could be an indicication that FreeBSD is used far more in professional >>scsi only environments and far less in a home/garage environments. > >Unless you need more than one CD-ROM drive, or need to be a CD-ROM server >in addition to being a file server, how do you justify the extra cost for >a SCSI CD-ROM? The ~$200 price difference could be better used for something >like a bigger hard disk, or more memory, or a better monitor. I'll list, instead, some reasons I'll never buy an IDE *anything*. A) I can't use it on anything but seriously losing hardware. B) It uses a seriously losing interface that will be dead within two years. C) $200 price difference? 8-speed CD-ROM drives seem to cost almost exactly the same in either interface, which isn't surprising since ATAPI CD-ROM drives essentially have a SCSI interface on them anyway. 2-speed drives are cheaper in SCSI last I looked -- if you can even get them in IDE. I don't generally buy anything in the middle, so I don't know what it costs. D) I can't use it on anything but seriously losing hardware. If I could get a PCI motherboard that didn't use up one of the devices for an IDE controller, believe you me, I absolutely positively would. And any non- i386 hardware I own (quite a bit, actually) is about as likely to support IDE as it is to support IPI -- less likely, actually, since IPI doesn't totally lose. -- Thor Lancelot Simon tls@rek.tjls.com Where is the day that melted into one rich noise? --Thomas Wolfe