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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.uoregon.edu!kaiwan.kaiwan.com!pell.pell.chi.il.us!there.is.no.cabal From: orc@pell.chi.il.us (Orc) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: a monthly FreeBSD magazine (and other *BSD's too) Date: 6 Jan 1996 03:12:35 -0800 Organization: Mind-reading, super-smart bisexuals with silly names Lines: 52 Message-ID: <4cllf3$7k8@pell.pell.chi.il.us> References: <4ajc07$sb7@unix2.glink.net.hk> <4cdijr$hjg@toplink1.toplink.net> <4cfq48$9lg@news1.halcyon.com> <1996Jan4.140833.18166@wavehh.hanse.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: pell.pell.chi.il.us Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.advocacy:32243 alt.os.linux:6931 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:11577 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1733 In article <1996Jan4.140833.18166@wavehh.hanse.de>, Martin Cracauer <cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de> wrote: >Easy: How can you know you will not need more than one CD drive in the >future. How can you know you won't have to use this CD-ROM on a >workstation someday? Buying SCSI means to lower the possibility to >trough away equipment because you can't predict the future. I dunno; given the collection of widely varying new SCSI proposals out there, what's the chance that your narrow SCSI devices will be useful a decade from now? SCSI has had a fantastic time of surviving and being upward compatable for over a decade, but when you start seeing fiber channel, differential, and so on variants of SCSI, the generic SCSI-1 and narrow SCSI-2 devices out here start to have a somewhat doomed look to them. And it's not really fair saying 'use this CD-ROM on a workstation someday.' The problem is that about 90% of the market appears to be PC clones. Most of them can talk to IDE drives, so the odds are that the workstation you might put them in will have provision for IDE drives. And they _are_ absurdly cheap, which is particularly annoying when you realize that, for some vendors, the only difference between an IDE and SCSI disk is two or three resistors, a cable connector, and firmware. If someone is looking to build a single PC at home where they can eventually donate ancient and elderly equipment to their children or parents, it's very possible that SCSI devices will be the ones that won't be used and will be thrown out (shoot, I'm evidence of that; since I've abandoned IDE on the bulk of my workstations, I've been able to give various HDs to friends who need a little extra storage. On the other hand, the ancient and creaky Quantum 80S drive a friend bought for $800 the year they were introduced; it still works fine, but there really isn't anyplace where it can go to live out its declining years, so there it sits, next to the dead 2.5" powerbook drive and a mighty 40mb PCMCIA drive.) >>The ~$200 price difference could be better used for something >>like a bigger hard disk, or more memory, or a better monitor. > >No, either *add* the $200 or buy more memory after a while. You can't >upgrade your CD-ROM to SCSI after a while. If you're building the system *now*, that $200 might be the difference between getting a computer or spending the next six months windowshopping. ____ david parsons \bi/ orc@pell.co^H^Hchi.il.us \/