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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.cis.okstate.edu!col.hp.com!csn!ub!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news.cs.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!park.uvsc.edu!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix Subject: Re: ISP hardware/software choices (performance comparison) Date: 14 Jan 1996 22:33:18 GMT Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah Lines: 45 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4dc0be$j2f@park.uvsc.edu> References: <4cmopu$d35@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4crnbe$8a@olympus.nwnet.net> <4cs2kn$kfg@cynic.portal.ca> <4cu7t0$mg5@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <4cv8j1$59k@park.uvsc.edu> <4cvjpk$rpf@durban.vector.co.za> <4d4s3u$u3@news.voicenet.com> <4d70n5$6lp@diablo.cet.co.jp> <4d9i2k$qo9@park.uvsc.edu> <4daoj2$d5t@diablo.cet.co.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1815 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:1942 comp.unix.solaris:56476 comp.unix.aix:68074 Michael Hancock <michaelh@cet.co.jp> wrote: ] >You are probably thinking of the "file system switch", not the ] >VFS (which implies vnodes) interface. ] > ] >VXFS is a UFS derivitive. The directory structure is identical, ] >as is the flexname handling. ] ] ] Didn't vnode/vfs facilitate it implementation? In the same way 1/8" sockets facilitated the assembly of my computer. 8-). It let it be worked on in an already running production framework. ] >] With WinNT amoung us the bickering needs to end and the Unix ] >] vendors need to find new ways to be cooperate and be ] >] competive by delivering better quality systems and better ] >] service. ] > ] >It's not going to happen. There is no way to add value to ] >non-commodity hardware, other than divergence. There's no ] >way for products to compete on commodity hardware without ] >divergence. ] > ] >You can't pull a value proposition out of a hat. ] ] Unless it were necessary for survival. Sorry, you're talking about the survival of the UNIX community as a whole at the cost of some of its members. The threatened members (understandably) prefer even a little more survival for themselves over the long term survival of the community. You apparently believe everyone's read Demming. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.