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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!oberon.physik.fu-berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Graichen) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Linux user's comments (since 0.98! :-) on FreeBSD 2.1 Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:26:44 GMT Organization: home :-) Lines: 72 Message-ID: <DKvHsK.G7@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de> References: <4cr16t$obt@topcat.uk.gdscorp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de (130.133.3.126) X-Access: 16 17 18 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:12209 comp.os.linux.development.system:15385 Jon Thackray (jrmt@uk.gdscorp.com) wrote: : - How can I turn off synchronous updates on meta-data under FFS? : I'd like my disk to be fast and quiet again! Also, what's the status : of the LFS? An incomplete left-over from Berkeley? on the async meta-data stuff john dyson is currently working - and i think a bit on lfs too : - Loadable modules don't appear to work out of the box. Compiling the : kernel without MSDOS support, and then saying mount_msdos gives : '(vfs)cannot find msdos_module'. Sounds about as broken as Linux at : the moment ;-) i don't use msdos - but for procfs & nfs it works fine - is there a file msdos_mod.o in /lkm ? - moment - no it works in 2.1.0-RELEASE at least - i installed it last weekend at a friend - i think you must do anything wrong : - Is there any documentation on ext2fs within FreeBSD? : How stable is it? (guess I'll have to join the mailing list : @freebsd.org) also john dyson is doing it - it's currently under devellopment (it works - and should be stable too - but currently thre are no e2fstools - you may take them from lites - but i don't know it exaclty - i don't use it) : - Linux compatibility compile option? Can I run Linux a.out binaries, : and how? I've not got many ELF binaries yet, so I'm not too worried : about those. elf currently not - but it's coming soon (NetBSD currently has it) - currently only i think qmagic (or were it zmagic) linux a.out binaries are working (netscape, maple demo, etc.) - you only have to add 'options "COMPAT_LINUX"' to your config file, recompile your kernel and then run the script /usr/bin/linux to load the linux emulator module : - NTFS and VFAT. I've been using the NTFS module under Linux, for : mounting Windows NT filesystems read-only. I haven't yet looked at : the module structure under FreeBSD, but would it be possible to : develop for both, with just a re-compile and a -DFreeBSD? Same goes : for VFAT and other useful modules - would be extremely useful :-) i think that they are too different (but that's just a feeling) - i've heared that a ntfs driver exists - ask terry lambert (terry@lambert.org) - maybe he know who has made it : In summary, both are great systems, each with their strengths. I've : only been playing with FreeBSD for a week or so, so I can't give much : more technical information, and I expect I'll use both systems in the : future. : I'd like to see more dual-development between the 'camps', for example, : the NTFS (and other filing systems) loadable modules could run on both : systems. Also sharing device drivers would be good (but _DON'T_ mention : the GPL or BSD copyrights, or we'll have another flame war again! :-) : Most excellent work from Jordan, Linus, and everyone involved in both. : May the future of free software go from strength to strength :-) how about a really good working BSD ffs (fast file system) support in linux ? (FreeBSD has ext2fs support now) t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________